Air Wisconsin pilots turn down pay cuts for 3rd time.

[DiverDriver]

They can and they should. We all should.

T-minus one day to arbitration. ( I know...the decision won't be for 4 months...just want to get game on!)

 

[COOPERVANE]

These MGMT pukes need to see that we are no longer going to sit and watch them erode this career to line their pockets!!

It has become SOP in this industry for company A to ask pilots for cuts so the company can "underbid" company B. The 1 year later, company B needs to cut costs to be competitive. All while handing out bonuses and posting profits

Disgusting

 

[The Drizzle]

If all pilot groups were like AirWhiskey this would be a much better job.

I thought it was interesting how the article mentioned how ACA and ZW got together and agreed on how they wouldn't undercut each other (2003 when UAL filed).

Why can't the rest of the MEC's do that?

well, i think it is beginning at least on the DCI side

not too many details available, but it is a fact that CMR and CHQ MECs have met and drafted mission statements to that effect. it is time for this sh!t to stop. i don't see too much hope on the USAirways side of things due to the wholly owned companies. not trying to imply anything negative, but i would just see some friction between them and the contract carriers

 

[B190Captain]

well, i think it is beginning at least on the DCI side

not too many details available, but it is a fact that CMR and CHQ MECs have met and drafted mission statements to that effect. it is time for this sh!t to stop. i don't see too much hope on the USAirways side of things due to the wholly owned companies. not trying to imply anything negative, but i would just see some friction between them and the contract carriers

There is friction there with Mesa, Republic and even AWAC with the WO's but what makes AWAC unique is that THEY own a piece of mainline.

I do admire their stand and support them in every way even though I have run into some of the bitter "bad apples" in PHL that are just total pricks.

 

[DiverDriver]

Don't let the few spoil the bunch. You may hear bitching in the crew room but that's where it should stay. Once out in front with the people it's straight face and "git'r done" time.

 

[Smarta$$]

Just so the rest of the industry knows what is going on...

ZW pilots were just asked to again entertain a B scale to bid on the Midwest Airlines 50 seat flying last week. They were also asked for a 70 seat T-prop rate. Additionally, they were asked about a 90 seat rate. The answer was given: No B scale. We have a 90 seat rate it's called the BAE-146 rate we have now. And you can put a "/t-prop" next to our negotiated 70 seat jet rate.

This was all predictable. I was just saying to my wife last week how we would get a carrot thrown in front of us just before our arbitration date (tommorrow the 28th).

I'm glad we had the good article in ALPA Pilot magazine. It pretty much states it true what's gone on here. I'm proud that our MEC responded to this 3rd attempt to lower the bar the way they did.

You guys need to be very carefull. If you vote NO to a bad deal GO jets will swoop in and take your flying!

 

[B190Captain]

You guys need to be very carefull. If you vote NO to a bad deal GO jets will swoop in and take your flying!

Very unlikely. AWAC is there for a while no matter what. IMO, they are in a very good position to tell them to stick it.

 

[DiverDriver]

You guys need to be very carefull. If you vote NO to a bad deal GO jets will swoop in and take your flying!

We voted YES once before and GoJ3ts came in anyway and took our flying (along with SkyWest). What's the difference? Vote Yes and lose money then lose the flying anyway. Vote no and keep a higher pay until the flying is gone. I plan to keep a fair wage until I can no longer.

Not to mention that AWAC (Eastshore Aviation) still owns 5 million <Dr. Evil pinky to bottom lip> shares of LCC still.

 

[Smarta$$]

We voted YES once before and GoJ3ts came in anyway and took our flying (along with SkyWest). What's the difference? Vote Yes and lose money then lose the flying anyway. Vote no and keep a higher pay until the flying is gone. I plan to keep a fair wage until I can no longer.

Not to mention that AWAC (Eastshore Aviation) still owns 5 million <Dr. Evil pinky to bottom lip> shares of LCC still.

In case you could not tell, I was both supporting you guys and pointing out what happened to us at Trans States.

 

[DiverDriver]

In case you could not tell, I was both supporting you guys and pointing out what happened to us at Trans States.

I've read your other posts. I know where you stand on GoJ3t. Believe me, we've had many conversations about a lot of scenarios. Of course what will happen won't be anything we've discussed.

T-minus 15 hours to arbitration.

 

[WSurf]

We voted YES once before and GoJ3ts came in anyway and took our flying (along with SkyWest). What's the difference? Vote Yes and lose money then lose the flying anyway. Vote no and keep a higher pay until the flying is gone. I plan to keep a fair wage until I can no longer.

Not to mention that AWAC (Eastshore Aviation) still owns 5 million <Dr. Evil pinky to bottom lip> shares of LCC still.

Eastshore was selling 3.0 million of that stock. AWAC soon won't have a share in US Airways anymore.

However in selling, I am sure they doubled there money on it!!!

 

[BoilerUP]

Eastshore was selling 3.0 million of that stock. AWAC soon won't have a share in US Airways anymore.

However in selling, I am sure they doubled there money on it!!!

Wrong.

Eastshore had 8.33M shares at the IPO for LCC and sold 3.05M shares. That leaves them with 5.25M shares remaining.

Don't look for them to cash out anytime soon...

 

[WSurf]

I would!

 

[hbrow15]

next overnight with an air whisky crew first round on me....

 

[AWACoff]

Wsurf,
Don't respond unless you have an iota of current and correct information. You are just a flamebaiter. I'm guessing it was you that slowed to less than 100kts 8 miles out for 26 the other day. So sorry you couldn't force us to go around. Better luck next time...