Air France A-340 down in YYZ

[Flying Illini]

From LiveATC, 1600-1630 time frame:
KLM 691 Heavy had to declare a minimum fuel emergency due to the airport closing...they went to Syracuse.

 

[OneBadLT123]

I'm just glad all passengers and crew are safe and alive

 

[Tripower455]

I'm just glad all passengers and crew are safe and alive

Amen brutha!!!!!

 

[Wasted]

I thought that was just the most insightful comment that professional private pilot that they interviewed made when he remarked about wind shear "yeah...its when you have lots of winds....and clouds..." Anybody catch his name? He needs to be sent something.

 

[chperplt]

This spokesman keeps talking about a "red alert". I've never heard of that in my 9000 hours, anybody else heard of that one?

A red alert is when the WX is too dangerous for airport workers to be on the ramp... Basically, it's when the ramp shuts down.

 

[ATRedneck]

He was asked to reduce to 160kts

For an Air Canada Jazz jet.

Wake turbulence from the CRJ?

 

[cforst513]

Yes the media does a bad job of reporting on aviation. But what do you expect from non-aviation people? How well could most of you report on stastical analysis or bio-engineering? Yes you are the experts. You do this for a living and should be well versed in aviation. But instead of whinning on this board and sending hate emails why don't you spend your energy saying a prayer for these poor people or at least wishing them the best of luck. A lot of people lost someone they love today. Somebody's kid is dead. Somebody's dad is gone. Somebody's mother is never coming home.

Sorry for the rant but I'm tired or hearing how much the regionals suck, how underpaid you are, and how much Wolf Blitzer sucks. Lots of people are sitting at home dying inside wondering if their loved one is alive. Give the bitching a rest.

DAS

true, but at the same time, we dont' find an 8th grade biology student to give their opinion on a paper concerning bio-engineering, either. they were just commenting on the fact that CNN called a kid in to do a man's job.

 

[Tripower455]

A red alert is when the WX is too dangerous for airport workers to be on the ramp... Basically, it's when the ramp shuts down.

We call them "code red", and it's a function of lightning strikes within a certain distance of the airport. A code red does not mean that the airport is closed, and more often than not, during a C.R., normal flight operations continue......

 

[BoDEAN]

" Injured survivors and crew members staggered along Canada's busiest highway Tuesday after an plane carrying 309 people skidded off the runway and burst into flames while trying to land during a fierce thunderstorm.

The co-pilot was among a series of passengers who flagged down passing motorists in the moments following the crash, said Peel police Sgt. Glyn Griffiths.

'We located the co-pilot on Highway 401'... "

Of the best news source on the net, non other than drudgereport.com

 

[skyaddict]

Newswires reporting all survived now- awesome.

 

[BoDEAN]

[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022218Z AUTO 31005KT 9SM CLR 23/19 A2999[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022203Z AUTO 30005KT 9SM -RA CLR 23/20 A2999[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022200Z AUTO 30005KT 9SM CLR 23/20 A2999 RMK SLP156[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022119Z AUTO 31005KT 9SM SCT026 BKN087 23/19 A3001[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022100Z AUTO 31008KT 9SM -RA BKN026 BKN084 BKN094 23/20 A3002 RMK PCPN 1.0MM PAST HR SLP165[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022010Z AUTO 31003KT 9SM -RA FEW084 23/20 A2999[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 022000Z AUTO 27006KT 9SM FEW084 23/20 A2999 RMK SLP156[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021924Z AUTO 25006KT 6SM CLR 22/20 A3000[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021900Z AUTO 21005KT 5SM -RA FEW065 22/20 A3002 RMK SLP165[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021857Z AUTO 20003KT 5SM -RA FEW065 FEW088 22/20 A3001[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021800Z AUTO 23004KT 6SM FEW044 FEW054 FEW088 23/21 A3002 RMK PCPN 2.0MM PAST HR SLP165[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021748Z AUTO 26003KT 4SM FEW026 23/21 A3001[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021736Z AUTO 22009KT 2 1/2SM FEW020 SCT026 22/21 A3003[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021729Z AUTO 24005KT 2 3/8SM FEW006 BKN020 22/21 A3003[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021711Z AUTO 26009KT 1 1/2SM FEW014 BKN024 23/21 A3004[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021700Z AUTO 27009KT 2SM RA FEW033 FEW055 FEW067 FEW081 23/21 A3004 RMK SLP173[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021657Z AUTO 24005KT 2 3/8SM -RA FEW038 FEW055 FEW067 FEW081 23/21 A3004[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYTZ 021648Z AUTO 19006KT 5SM -RA FEW038 FEW055 FEW067 FEW081 23/20 A3003


Last 6 hours of metars from Toronto for those who are curious
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[jetexas]

Newswires reporting all survived now- awesome.

amazing!

 

[Flying Illini]

The crash occurred at Pearson, CYYZ, not CYTZ.

 

[Metro752]

* start of where I caught the transmissions to AF358 about 23:21 *

AFR: ?center?Approach, Air France 358 ..... with uniform
App: Air France 358 Heavy, roger, 24L's your runway, the altimeter is 3000, and when you're able fly heading two ten to intercept the localizer.
AFR: when able, within, (pause) 5 nautical miles we can intercept the localizer, localizer.. ?for? Air France 358
App: Roger


App: Air Frabce 358 decend and maintain 5000.
AFR: Down to 5000 and we turn hdg, uhhh, 245 to intercept the localizer.
App: Roger


App: Air France 358 reduce speed now to one 190 knots.
AFR: Reducing 190, Air France 358.


App: Air France 358 maintain 4000.
AFR: Maintain 4000, 358.
App: Roger


App: Air France 358 cleared the ILS approach to runway 24L
AFR: okay, ILS twenty four left, 358


App: Air France 358 reduce speed now to one sixty knots.
AFR: reducing one sixty, 358.


App: Air France 358 slow to your final approach speed
AFR: reduce, uhhh, minimum approach speed, um correct
App: correct, minimum speed Air France 358
Afr: unitelli (possibly a french sounding "roger")


App: Air France 358 contact Toronto Tower at the KIREX fix on frequency one eighteen point three five
AFR: one eighteen three five, bye sir
App: G'day


* end of AF358 on the App controller *

 

[BoDEAN]

The crash occurred at Pearson, CYYZ, not CYTZ.

Thanks for the update , I should have known that!

[font=Monospace,Courier]CYYZ 022200Z 32009KT 10SM -TSRA SCT045TCU OVC230 22/20 A3003 RMK TCU4CI3 CB ASOCTD LTGIC FU ALF SLP168[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYYZ 022100Z 18013KT 8SM -TSRA BKN055 BKN140 22/19 A3004 RERA RMK SC5AC2 CB ASOCTD FU ALF SLP171[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYYZ 022020Z 34024G33KT 3SM +TSRA FEW015 OVC040TCU 23/ RMK SF2TCU6 CB ASOCTD[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYYZ 022004Z CCA 34024G33KT 1 1/4SM +TSRA SCT015 OVC045TCU 23/ RMK RA2SF2TCU5 CB ASOCTD[/font]
[font=Monospace,Courier]CYYZ 022000Z 29011KT 4SM +TSRA BKN051TCU BKN140 23/22 A3002 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD LTGCC VIS LWR SW-NW 2 SLP164



What does [/font][font=Monospace,Courier]RA2SF2TCU5 mean?[/font]
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[Sycamore SAm]

It was a fairly stormy afternoon and I did see the storm approach. The rain, wind and lightning was pretty vicious. I haven't seen a storm like this in these parts for a long time.

Thank god it appears that everyone is alright.

 

[ABXbooger]

News and survivors are saying there was only a "short period" to evacuate the pax. One guy is saying that there was fire as he was evacuating the plane.

Makes me wonder how the hell they are going to get all of em out in the 380. I am sure this will spark some interest.

 

[jetexas]

Good point. I wonder how many people tried to get their carry ons off the plane?

 

[CrewResearch]

Hey, let's hear a cheer for the cabin crew on that plane for getting everyone evacuated so quickly. Bravo to them!

 

[ABXbooger]

Don't want to take anything away from the cabin crew, 290 people out, unbelievable. I wouldn't have wanted those odds...