ahh the wisdom of General Lee

[Gulfstream 200]

well any job is a job. have you ever had a job after college other than aviation?

Nope. never needed one. My first job as a CFI in 1995 paid more than an RJ FO in 2005....and I thought that was bad at 20yrs old...how ya doing with that?

Like the general, I enjoy flying a nice jet and get paid a decent, but modest, 6 figure salary to do it...

and you? why you so happy to see the decent paying jobs end? where you going?

think about it this way...in many states General Lee can make more on unemployment that you make in that RJ. how about that?

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[Boeingman]

just being the "bottomfeeder", albeit a wholly owned one, that you accuse us of.....

I think you have some serious issues sport. Although comments and attitudes like yours do nothing to dispell the reasons that some paint with a broad brush about our regional partners.

Oh yes, and as an FYI I would be interested to know where I called you a "bottom feeder". You can see that the brush paints both ways. Imagine that.

 

[CitationLover]

I think you have some serious issues sport. Although comments and attitudes like yours do nothing to dispell the reasons that some paint with a broad brush about our regional partners.

Oh yes, and as an FYI I would be interested to know where I called you a "bottom feeder". You can see that the brush paints both ways. Imagine that.

well boeingman my initial comments were never directed at you so why are you posting on this thread?

yes pilots are underpaid (no one understands that more than regional pilots), however the economic realities are driving this trend of the legacies. i was just calling the general on one specific post regarding delta, and all his "fraternity" bros (delta sigma boeing/airbus) jumped to his defense.

 

[CitationLover]

Nope. never needed one. My first job as a CFI in 1995 paid more than an RJ FO in 2005....and I thought that was bad at 20yrs old...how ya doing with that?

Like the general, I enjoy flying a nice jet and get paid a decent, but modest, 6 figure salary to do it...

and you? why you so happy to see the decent paying jobs end? where you going?

think about it this way...in many states General Leecan make more on umemployment that you make in that RJ. how about that?

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once again gulfstream you are attacking the source rather than addressing the issue. i made 6 figures (as you put it) for a long enough time to realize that "6 figures" really isn't THAT much money as a pension consultant. i have never said i was happy about "decent paying jobs ending" (please provide a quote mr. specific). where is your ATTACK on the general regarding the demise of those legacy carriers that delta (at least in 2003) was going to buy you hypocrite?

and yes it horrible the salaries (if you want to call it that) that regional FO's make. where the f@#$ am I defending these you imbecile?

you have no experience OUTSIDE aviation and thus do not realize that MOST jobs REAL wages have gone down over the last few years. your blinders makes you attack that which you know nothing about.

 

[Redmeat]

i was just calling the general on one specific post regarding delta, and all his "fraternity" bros (delta sigma boeing/airbus) jumped to his defense.

I wasn't necessarily defending the General, I just don't like regional guys, that's all.

 

[79%N1]

I wasn't necessarily defending the General, I just don't like regional guys, that's all.

Whats your friggin problem with "Regional Guys?" I am a regional guy. I get up in the morning, shower, have some breakfast, kiss my wife and go to work....I fly where the company tells me to, as safely as I can. I try to get along with my crew, accomodate the customers, stay proficient, study for my checkrides, be on time........Then I go home, watch Sportcenter, have a beer and some dinner, and go to bed........So, what have I done to you to make you not like me????? I have to know!

 

[Boeingman]

well boeingman my initial comments were never directed at you so why are you posting on this thread?

yes pilots are underpaid (no one understands that more than regional pilots), however the economic realities are driving this trend of the legacies. i was just calling the general on one specific post regarding delta, and all his "fraternity" bros (delta sigma boeing/airbus) jumped to his defense.

I'm sorry....did I need permission to chime in? A thousand pardons Sire.

Fraternity bros? There you go again with that envy issue. I didn't look at it as jumping to his defense rather more so pointing out you sound quite immature rubbing salt in the wound. Sounds like you are one of those guys who thinks that your are entitled to step directly into the left seat of a Boeing and bypass the process right? Let me guess PFT? Flying that CRJ beneath your vast experience and exposure to the aviation industry?

Now we are also digressing to regional pilots being underpaid? This has what to do with General's enthusiasm? A little thread drift here?

 

[Redmeat]

Whats your friggin problem with "Regional Guys?" I am a regional guy. I get up in the morning, shower, have some breakfast, kiss my wife and go to work....I fly where the company tells me to, as safely as I can. I try to get along with my crew, accomodate the customers, stay proficient, study for my checkrides, be on time........Then I go home, watch Sportcenter, have a beer and some dinner, and go to bed........So, what have I done to you to make you not like me????? I have to know!

I will take that back. I don't like MOST regional pilots. However, you sound like a mature pilot. You need to police your own. There are many in your pilot group who are giving YOU a bad name. A lot of very immature individuals in your group.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

once again gulfstream you are attacking the source rather than addressing the issue. i made 6 figures (as you put it) for a long enough time to realize that "6 figures" really isn't THAT much money as a pension consultant. i have never said i was happy about "decent paying jobs ending" (please provide a quote mr. specific). where is your ATTACK on the general regarding the demise of those legacy carriers that delta (at least in 2003) was going to buy you hypocrite?

and yes it horrible the salaries (if you want to call it that) that regional FO's make. where the f@#$ am I defending these you imbecile?

you have no experience OUTSIDE aviation and thus do not realize that MOST jobs REAL wages have gone down over the last few years. your blinders makes you attack that which you know nothing about.

No.

You started this thread simply to poke at Gen Lee. You seem to take enjoyment out of the fact that his good paying job (and 1000's of others) may be gone forever. "told ya General..haha"

Why is it that so many RJ pilots get off about the demise of the mainline jobs? where do you think you are going?

I figured this was "second career syndrome" the glossy pages of some Comair ad got to you, huh? sick of flying the cubicle?

heck, at least you can go back to that pension consulting job (whatever) after the SJS wears off. Consider yourself lucky!

I guess being an airline pilot is kind of a short term hobby these days anyhow.

Keep the cool uniform though, you can always wear it on Halloween.

 

[chperplt]

There are many in your pilot group who are giving YOU a bad name. A lot of very immature individuals in your group.

I don't know what pilot group you belong to, but I'm guessing it's the arrogant one. There are a lot of very immature individuals in every pilot group, young to old, regional to major.

 

[CitationLover]

I'm sorry....did I need permission to chime in? A thousand pardons Sire.

Fraternity bros? There you go again with that envy issue. I didn't look at it as jumping to his defense rather more so pointing out you sound quite immature rubbing salt in the wound. Sounds like you are one of those guys who thinks that your are entitled to step directly into the left seat of a Boeing and bypass the process right? Let me guess PFT? Flying that CRJ beneath your vast experience and exposure to the aviation industry?

Now we are also digressing to regional pilots being underpaid? This has what to do with General's enthusiasm? A little thread drift here?

tell me oh wise one where i rubbed salt in his wound? i posted a quote and said "why are you still listening to him?". is that gray hair impeding your brainwaves from producing rational thought old man?

 

[CitationLover]

No.

You started this thread simply to poke at Gen Lee. You seem to take enjoyment out of the fact that his good paying job (and 1000's of others) may be gone forever. "told ya General..haha"

Why is it that so many RJ pilots get off about the demise of the mainline jobs? where do you think you are going?

I figured this was "second career syndrome" the glossy pages of some Comair ad got to you, huh? sick of flying the cubicle?

heck, at least you can go back to that pension consulting job (whatever) after the SJS wears off. Consider yourself lucky!

I guess being an airline pilot is kind of a short term hobby these days anyhow.

Keep the cool uniform though, you can always wear it on Halloween.

again where did i quote haha? you ASSume things that you read. where did i "get off" on the demise of mainline jobs (poking fun at someone who pokes fun at a lot of people is "getting off")? are you that insecure to jump down anyones throat? and no, if you must know i did instruct, fly freight, etc, no pft.

where are you going gulfstream? i'm happy you made more than some regional fo cfi'ing in 1995. i'm happy you make 6 figures flying fat cats around. you must have big biceps from patting yourself on the back.

bottom line is the general got the joke. the rest of you must have forgotten to take your meds. 1st class medicals?!?! all freightnazi did was repeat a post from that same thread (did you read that link)? nah, jump to conclusions.

 

[Boeingman]

tell me oh wise one where i rubbed salt in his wound? i posted a quote and said "why are you still listening to him?".

Then the point of the thread and your juvenile replies meant what? The inference was obvious to all.

Is that gray hair impeding your brainwaves from producing rational thought old man?

I may be a bit aged and a little gray but at least I can see the difference between some douche with a chip on his shoulder and a guy who has earned his way up to a major. The lines are to blurry for you because of that entitlement attitude of yours I guess.

Is Dad & Mom's bank accounts advancing your career combined with some fresh acne pustules impeding your thoughts boy?

 

[CitationLover]

Then the point of the thread and your juvenile replies meant what? The inference was obvious to all.

I may be a bit aged and a little gray but at least I can see the difference between some douche with a chip on his shoulder and a guy who has earned his way up to a major. The lines are to blurry for you because of that entitlement attitude of yours I guess.

Is Dad & Mom's bank accounts advancing your career combined with some fresh acne postules impeding your thoughts boy?

well boeing you jumped in BEFORE i replied by ATTACKING me personally (ad hominem if you didn't goto college).

ahh there it is: "earned his way up to a major". what is that? if i have 1200 121 PIC sloughing in a 1900, 4000+ TT, 800+ 135 check hauling PIC, 800+ instructing hours, when do I "earn my way"? hmm. 800hrs in an f16 "earns" your way? you talk of me being envious (you bet. i wish i had better QOL, pay, etc: who doesn't?), however you're being downright arrogant.

no thanks. Dad and Mom are fine. speaking of entitlements....when are you going to start cashing your social security check? medicare starts at age 62.

 

[Baby Cakes]

We love ya General! those taking potshots at you have an axe to grind.

 

[dmbfarmer]

The General has his opinions, some are proved right, some wrong. His positive out look is refreshing in this industry. I would like to point out that when the General is wrong at least he admits it and moves on (some times he even apologizes...gasp!. Some of the posters hardly make that effort. His posts are still worth reading whether you love him or hate him.

 

[Boeingman]

well boeing you jumped in BEFORE i replied by ATTACKING me personally (ad hominem if you didn't goto college).

ahh there it is: "earned his way up to a major". what is that? if i have 1200 121 PIC sloughing in a 1900, 3000+ TT, 800+ 135 check hauling PIC, 800+ instructing hours, when do I "earn my way"? hmm. 800hrs in an f16 "earns" your way? you talk of me being envy (you bet. i wish i had better QOL, pay, etc: who doesn't?), however you're being downright arrogant.

no thanks. Dad and Mom are fine. speaking of entitlements....when are you going to start cashing your social security check? medicare starts at age 62.

You still don't get it do you? Your replies drip with envy and sarcasim directed towards those who are flying for the majors. You chap my hide because attitudes like yours are the seedlings for discontent and problems with pilots within this industry.

When do you earn your way? Probably when you have the maturity and attitude to get through an interview process. Or are you saying with your entitlement attitude and all that vast experience of yours is not advancing you to where you belong on your flight time alone? I got news for you boy, your hours don't mean jack with an attitude like yours. Enjoy that CRJ, sounds like you'll be flying it for a long time to come.

You're confusing what you percieve as arrogance with brute truth. Perhaps you surround yourself with others who pump that fragile ego of yours (sounds like that lowly CRJ is just killing you) Perhaps Daddy and Mommy blew to much sunshine up your kiester, I don't know what your malfunction is.

Social Security? LMAO. Let me tell you something sport. When the time comes for those checks, they wouldn't pay for one hour in my own airplane. Not to worry, my bankroll is in very healthy shape. Some of us do have outside business interests that allow us disregard this airline mess. It comes in handy when I run into a live version of your ilk it gives me an opportunity to laugh at such breathtaking ignorance.

The bottom line for you is your impression of yourself and how you judge others seems fixed to your current position. Is that because of an inflated ego or lack of self esteem?

 

[CitationLover]

The General has his opinions, some are proved right, some wrong. His positive out look is refreshing in this industry. I would like to point out that when the General is wrong at least he admits it and moves on (some times he even apologizes...gasp!. Some of the posters hardly make that effort. His posts are still worth reading whether you love him or hate him.

agreed hence the ribbing, boeingman doesn't get it (he's part psychologist).

 

[CitationLover]

You still don't get it do you? Your replies drip with envy and sarcasim directed towards those who are flying for the majors. You chap my hide because attitudes like yours are the seedlings for discontent and problems with pilots within this industry.

When do you earn your way? Probably when you have the maturity and attitude to get through an interview process. Or are you saying with your entitlement attitude and all that vast experience of yours is not advancing you to where you belong on your flight time alone? I got news for you boy, your hours don't mean jack with an attitude like yours. Enjoy that CRJ, sounds like you'll be flying it for a long time to come.

You're confusing what you percieve as arrogance with brute truth. Perhaps you surround yourself with others who pump that fragile ego of yours (sounds like that lowly CRJ is just killing you) Perhaps Daddy and Mommy blew to much sunshine up your kiester, I don't know what your malfunction is.

Social Security? LMAO. Let me tell you something sport. When the time comes for those checks, they wouldn't pay for one hour in my own airplane. Not to worry, my bankroll is in very healthy shape. Some of us do have outside business interests that allow us disregard this airline mess. It comes in handy when I run into a live version of your ilk it gives me an opportunity to laugh at such breathtaking ignorance.

The bottom line for you is your impression of yourself and how you judge others seems fixed to your current position. Is that because of an inflated ego or lack of self esteem?

ok we disagree. no more with you.

fyi, most pft'ers are sons/daughters of major airline daddies/mommies who want their children "to get the jump on their careers". we are our own worst enemies.

 

[jimcav]

General, I don't know you personally but you seem like a good guy. Ignore the remarks from a few and keep the faith. Best of luck to you and all the nice folks at DAL.