Age 65

[pilotyip]

That may be but most agree that after a certain age your skill reaches diminishing returns for all of us.

But it is not uniform, as I have stated before, lets for the name of safety make the retirement age the age of the youngest pilot who experiences and inflight ncapacitation. That would be really safe,

 

[Helmsalee]

"most agree that after a certain age your skill reaches diminishing returns"

FF, in the first place, I don't think that "most agree". I agree that generally younger=quicker and that is important for a fighter pilot in combat. Flying a transport aircraft not so much. In many cases, just the opposite is true.
Helm

 

[FrontierFan]

By skillz, I'm not talking about top gun or steep turn stuff.. I'm talking about basic airman ship. I talking about things I have witnessed first hand.

I am talking about things like controlling the volume of your voice on an owner trip. Taxiing at half a normal speed at night because you need to get your bi-focal prescription changed. Screwing up the box on things most would consider normal ops (like a runway / approach change) and again putting the altitude where the heading belongs and the heading where the altitude belongs. One time I was in the back with the owner. When I came back I got strapped in and asked if there were any changes. Old guy replied "no". Seconds later we got yelled at my because my partner received a re-route and never hit the "execute" button on the FMS. I'm sorry but this kinda stuff sucks to work with. Then after you get done with the ASAP forms in your hotel you get to contemplate turning in Dad to the old people committee to see if the safety commentate comes up with the same conclusion everyone else on the line has. And rebutting that junior pilots make mistakes too is not apples to apples. Junior pilots get better, old pilots get worse.

I did not say everyone over "X" age is no good. As I stated many times previously, I have flown with some really really great people over 60 and 65, but I have also flown with some that really made me think about a standard age limit. It is my opinion from experience that if you are still cool after 65-ish than you are the exception and not the rule. Maybe as someone else posted, age is cool in an airline environment. Well age is not always cool with fractional flying.

 

[jonjuan]

pilotyip heading to work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMnepaF4Pg&feature=fvwrel

 

[pilotyip]

pilotyip heading to work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMnepaF4Pg&feature=fvwrel

funny but I don't live in Europe

 

[Hawkered]

Then watch it with your monitor reflecting in a mirror!

 

[BuckMurdock1]

When nothing else works you have to cry, motherhood, patriotism and safety, because no one can ever be against those. But that is not the case. This is about get out of my seat. Lets look at the age of pilot incapacitation’s, most are under 60.

Yip;
Since you seem to be stuck on "it's about get out of my seat" (I think you've repeated that like 15 times in this thread), ok; whatever works for you. Now get out of my seat! :laugh:

 

[pilotyip]

Yip;
Since you seem to be stuck on "it's about get out of my seat" (I think you've repeated that like 15 times in this thread), ok; whatever works for you. Now get out of my seat! :laugh:

funny, nobody wants my seat

 

[Semore Butts]

I never did get a dollar amount from you young guys

Where I must retire or be an "a$$hole"?

Oh, by the way, if you guys reach that amount, are you then in somebody else junior to yous seat? I'm assuming you will be retiring then?

Also, may I please have a list of things I am allowed to own without being an a$$hole and occupying the seat of someone junior to me?

Taking retirement advice from someone younger then me is like taking business advice from a president that was a lawyer and never ran a business.

No offense meant, but unless you are 54 years old, you just don't know. I have been every age you have and then some.

P.S. If I have my way about it I will be retired before 65.

Have a good one guys. Semore

 

[pilotyip]

Where I must retire or be an "a$$hole"?

Oh, by the way, if you guys reach that amount, are you then in somebody else junior to yous seat? I'm assuming you will be retiring then?

Also, may I please have a list of things I am allowed to own without being an a$$hole and occupying the seat of someone junior to me?

Taking retirement advice from someone younger then me is like taking business advice from a president that was a lawyer and never ran a business.

No offense meant, but unless you are 54 years old, you just don't know. I have been every age you have and then some.

P.S. If I have my way about it I will be retired before 65.

Have a good one guys. Semore

Thank you well said

 

[fischman]

Where I must retire or be an "a$$hole"?

Oh, by the way, if you guys reach that amount, are you then in somebody else junior to yous seat? I'm assuming you will be retiring then?

Also, may I please have a list of things I am allowed to own without being an a$$hole and occupying the seat of someone junior to me?

Taking retirement advice from someone younger then me is like taking business advice from a president that was a lawyer and never ran a business.

No offense meant, but unless you are 54 years old, you just don't know. I have been every age you have and then some.

P.S. If I have my way about it I will be retired before 65.

Have a good one guys. Semore

Thank you well said

...And double spaced.

 

[gret]

Where I must retire or be an "a$$hole"?

Oh, by the way, if you guys reach that amount, are you then in somebody else junior to yous seat? I'm assuming you will be retiring then?

Also, may I please have a list of things I am allowed to own without being an a$$hole and occupying the seat of someone junior to me?

Taking retirement advice from someone younger then me is like taking business advice from a president that was a lawyer and never ran a business.

No offense meant, but unless you are 54 years old, you just don't know. I have been every age you have and then some.

P.S. If I have my way about it I will be retired before 65.

Have a good one guys. Semore

Double ditto!

If you need somebody to retire to move up or get a job, you're a sorry excuse for a human, or an American. Make you own place in the world rather than being a lame butt parasite.

Nobody said it would be easy and you're not entitled to anything. Go earn it.

 

[flygirl556]

Double ditto!

If you need somebody to retire to move up or get a job, you're a sorry excuse for a human, or an American. Make you own place in the world rather than being a lame butt parasite.

Nobody said it would be easy and you're not entitled to anything. Go earn it.

Earn as much as you can and then please excuse yourself when your skills start to diminish. It's not fun to sit next too. I think that was my point on age limits, not how much you earn or "get out of my seat".

Oh...and I just noticed my post was under my Wife's username. This is Frontierfan and my opinion.

 

[pilotyip]

Earn as much as you can and then please excuse yourself when your skills start to diminish. It's not fun to sit next too. I think that was my point on age limits, not how much you earn or "get out of my seat".

Oh...and I just noticed my post was under my Wife's username. This is Frontierfan and my opinion.

Who will be the one to determine when one's skills diminish? This is not age dependent. We already give check rides, oral exams, line checks, what else?
Here is an idea, starting at age 40, every pilot must take the SAT, when the score drops below 1100, they can no longer exercise the privileges of their Comm certificate. Why not, it is a good test of mental ability? Obviously this is not practical, but what other set of tests could be used to determine when skills start to diminish?

 

[rettofly]

Earn as much as you can and then please excuse yourself when your skills start to diminish. It's not fun to sit next too. I think that was my point on age limits, not how much you earn or "get out of my seat".

Oh...and I just noticed my post was under my Wife's username. This is Frontierfan and my opinion.

The trick is to be aware of your skill level and get out before the inevitable deterioration becomes obvious. It is inevitable. I made my exit at age 68. Recurrent and check rides stopped being fun, so I worked out the calendar (including grace month ) and bailed out. I just couldn't see being told by a check airman at some point that it was time to go, but that's just me.