ABX furloughs

[SkyMiles]

Heard a rumor that 9-10 DC9 F/O's just got furloughed. Anyone hear anything?

 

[ABXbooger]

yep. enjoy all the OPF...

 

[SkyMiles]

seems fishy that there is a lot of pushback on the 23/23 ana schedules then all of a sudden, furloughs.

 

[ABXbooger]

Funny thing is, most of the people screaming the loudest are senior enough to not have to go to Japan if they don't want to. Why? I think it is because they want to "say" they have flown overseas, but not have to do the 23 day stuff. All ego.

OPF at 13% pre-schedule drop in all seats except 9FO, so add in CRM/PC's and vacation and that will easily exceed 13%.

I am sure the union will step up and do the right thing, they did the last time there were furloughs...

 

[Fly Astar Jets]

Heard a rumor that 9-10 DC9 F/O's just got furloughed. Anyone hear anything?

Why??? With the ANA deal in place and going to happen in one form or another, one would think you're gonna need all the bodies you can lay your hands on. Is Mgt. taking hostages to twist your negotiators arms??

Either way, it's bull$#!%. Both our groups have to live and work in the Corn Field, and no one likes to see this crap happen to anyone.
Hope all your peeps get to come home soon.

FAJ

 

[Sporto]

My entire time being at ABX I had never felt better regarding staffing levels/proffers. This was a real curveball.

 

[SkyMiles]

May 8: 10 Furloughs of DC9 F/O's
May 8: 767 proffer closes
May 9: requested date to have approval for holding co.
May 10: earnings and conference call

Are they related? Stock price continues to drop. Is there going to be some big or bad news on thurs? Or just saber rattling?

 

[Jurassic Jet]

May 8: 10 Furloughs of DC9 F/O's
May 8: 767 proffer closes
May 9: requested date to have approval for holding co.
May 10: earnings and conference call

Are they related? Stock price continues to drop. Is there going to be some big or bad news on thurs? Or just saber rattling?

I'm sure it's probably some of both. Word is about 130 ABX managers/admin people got the pink slip today as well. I would possibly expect an earnings miss so the furloughs/layoffs are to show the shareholders proactiveness at the meeting tomorrow (although I'm pretty sure we know the real reason for the pilots).

 

[TWA]

Any idea how long this one will last? BTW, what does this bring the total furlough to?

 

[ABXbooger]

10 today with 5 still on furlough from 2000, plus the PFE's (?)

 

[SkyMiles]

any rumors floating around about dhl releasing all dc9's? read it on the yahoo "finance rumor" board.

 

[cheyflyer]

I thought I just read on here about a week or so ago that ABX was gearing up to hire!

 

[DC-9er]

Funny thing is, most of the people screaming the loudest are senior enough to not have to go to Japan if they don't want to. Why? I think it is because they want to "say" they have flown overseas, but not have to do the 23 day stuff. All ego.

OPF at 13% pre-schedule drop in all seats except 9FO, so add in CRM/PC's and vacation and that will easily exceed 13%.

I am sure the union will step up and do the right thing, they did the last time there were furloughs...

Do you blame EVERYTHING on the senior pilots? How about global warming? No opf will just put all the extra flying on the bottom of the list. Just like 1997. It all still gets covered.

 

[Box-Hauler]

Do you blame EVERYTHING on the senior pilots? How about global warming? No opf will just put all the extra flying on the bottom of the list. Just like 1997. It all still gets covered.

I would beg to differ. If everyone, (that means unity) would not bid open time, stop the vacation buy back and not allow the company to junior man, then there would be no way to cover all the flying. The DC9 captain side alone had 14 line of flying droped into open time. I know you will then say how can you not allow the company to junior man. Don't accept the trip. They cannot charge you a sick day on an X day. They cannot tell me I have had adaquate rest. I do not have to answer the phone. We allow the company to act this way and allow them to abuse us for 4.5 hrs of pay. Wake up. Listen to the adio archive. Listen to John Dolls presentation. United we stand divided we fly 23 extended into 30 days in Japan.

 

[DC-9er]

I would beg to differ. If everyone, (that means unity) would not bid open time, stop the vacation buy back and not allow the company to junior man, then there would be no way to cover all the flying. The DC9 captain side alone had 14 line of flying droped into open time. I know you will then say how can you not allow the company to junior man. Don't accept the trip. They cannot charge you a sick day on an X day. They cannot tell me I have had adaquate rest. I do not have to answer the phone. We allow the company to act this way and allow them to abuse us for 4.5 hrs of pay. Wake up. Listen to the adio archive. Listen to John Dolls presentation. United we stand divided we fly 23 extended into 30 days in Japan.

Doesn't work. They don't need to call you for junior manning. you're told about a junior man assignment days/weeks in advance, when your already flying. THAT's what needs fixed.