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You are a very weak pilot group. No one there seem to care. 6 years!? Are you kidding me? I thought we at ASA were weak. You all take the cake now. I've said this before on here and to you guys when I see you. FLY SAFE! Make sure every airplane is the safest it could possibly be. Tell your peers to do the same. If you need a list of things that can easily be written up on a CRJ do a search. There are TONS!
When ASA had the safest airplanes around it took 2 weeks and we had a TA.
When ASA had the safest airplanes around it took 2 weeks and we had a TA.
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Tell you what Sally, if we really need your opinion on the matter, we'll ask. Until then just keep your thoughts to yourself cause we really don't care for them right now. How about you just worry your pretty little self on the whole ASA/Express Jet merger and let us worry about our TA... Mkay?
And you keep holding up your signs and your breath and lets see what happens...
OCP is right on the money. Sorry you can't take the truth. It is OUR fault this has dragged on so long.
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Lets start a work slowdown guys. Its the only way we will get anything done. Write every little thing up, slooowwww taxi, ride the brakes, (and for us colgan guys call out a few mins late), sick out, fatigue out, NO se taxi, run the APU all the time, etc etc. Grow some balls! don't let me be the lone soldier out there.. anybody in ? anybody?
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By the looks of your other posts you are a Colgan guy. First let me say that you are responsible for your posts on here and it is not that difficult to figure out who you are when the company wants to seek liable damages.
Since you are Colgan you I will give you a pass on the knowledge of liable comments. I am serious here. Do not post what you just posted, your company can come after you for any damages your comments may have caused them which would reach into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It will ruin you for a lifetime and is not worth it.
You can easily do a search and see that multiple of pilots have been personally gone after for such comments. (a google search, not a FI search)
In fact, after reading your post...it is so bad, that I think it is too late for you. I will give you a 50/50 chance of surviving this without at least a thump on the head from an outside party. I suggest, if you can to erase it as quick as you can. I took out the "quoting" of your post to hopefully erase any evidence.
Since you are Colgan you I will give you a pass on the knowledge of liable comments. I am serious here. Do not post what you just posted, your company can come after you for any damages your comments may have caused them which would reach into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It will ruin you for a lifetime and is not worth it.
You can easily do a search and see that multiple of pilots have been personally gone after for such comments. (a google search, not a FI search)
In fact, after reading your post...it is so bad, that I think it is too late for you. I will give you a 50/50 chance of surviving this without at least a thump on the head from an outside party. I suggest, if you can to erase it as quick as you can. I took out the "quoting" of your post to hopefully erase any evidence.
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To Simon Says,
Are you kidding?
If you are serious, I am sure if you had lived during the second world war you would have been one of those guys telling the Nazis that your neighbors were Jewish so that you wouldn't get in trouble and because that's what they told you to do.
people like you need to grow some balls.
If through our history people would have always followed and obey the rules some of which being made to the advantage of a minority then you would still be living in a dictatorship.
Sometimes you need to take risks and make sacrifices in order to get a result, If it means losing your job, think about people risking their life.
I believe it has been over 5 years that Pinnacle pilots have been trying to get a new contract, it seems that all previous actions such as picketing haven't produced any result, it may be time to change the strategy and take some risk.
Are you kidding?
If you are serious, I am sure if you had lived during the second world war you would have been one of those guys telling the Nazis that your neighbors were Jewish so that you wouldn't get in trouble and because that's what they told you to do.
people like you need to grow some balls.
If through our history people would have always followed and obey the rules some of which being made to the advantage of a minority then you would still be living in a dictatorship.
Sometimes you need to take risks and make sacrifices in order to get a result, If it means losing your job, think about people risking their life.
I believe it has been over 5 years that Pinnacle pilots have been trying to get a new contract, it seems that all previous actions such as picketing haven't produced any result, it may be time to change the strategy and take some risk.
I also agree that people need to re-find their balls. If a person continues doing the same thing, then how can one expect different results. I would like to offer a new (new for us) twist. Stop using your cell phone to call the company. Sure, you have to have a phone, but no where does it say you have to use it to call them. So when you are ready to block out or have already, and something is not quite right. Most will use their cell phone to call dispatch. Stop doing that. Use acars, the bat phone, but when you need to open the passenger door back up and go inside to use the phone. The company does not pay my phone bill and because I am not required to have one, this would not be a work action. So what do you think? Or we could all just get beepers again. If you are too young to know what that is, just ask some one older.
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Simon, why don't you ease up on dcfu69? I'm guessing he's probably new to the whole union experience and probably has a bunch of "crazy" misconceptions about what the union can really do. In due time, he'll figure out that aside from being an excuse for union officers to avoid the line, the union doesn't do much else (especially for the regionals)
If that's truly how you feel, maybe a PM would have been nice rather than announcing to the world to go after him.
Posted on the "other" board also
A few starters: every spoiler has 2 bonding straps that need to be there.
The gear doors have bonding straps.
Spare fuses need to be there.
ADG placard needs to be there. Really any red placard.
Nosewheel steering on/off label needs to be there.
The little mechanism that is under your knee to move it up needs to have ALL it's parts and work correctly.
Parking brake handle loose?
There are plenty of others. The key is to stand up and take one for the team if you have to. If it's broke at the outstation write it up!
Do a search for others.
A few starters: every spoiler has 2 bonding straps that need to be there.
The gear doors have bonding straps.
Spare fuses need to be there.
ADG placard needs to be there. Really any red placard.
Nosewheel steering on/off label needs to be there.
The little mechanism that is under your knee to move it up needs to have ALL it's parts and work correctly.
Parking brake handle loose?
There are plenty of others. The key is to stand up and take one for the team if you have to. If it's broke at the outstation write it up!
Do a search for others.
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You are right, I should have PM'ed him. I appolagize. I now cannot take that post down due to flightinfo's edit script.
Simon Says
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Auurgg, not really. I was trying to get him to take the post down.
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If lives were at stake then I would say you are spot on. Since we are negotiating under a legal frame work of the Railway Labor act then your post does not hold water.
We need to negotiate and sponser LEGAL work actions. We, as a pilot group, cannot stray outside the bounds of the laws that hold our contract legal.
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You are correct on all those points. But, look at the lawsuit against the APA (Americain Pilot Association) and the Comair write up campaign. The Comair write up campaign was a classic example of how things can go wrong quickly. The judge ruled that the write ups were legitimate write ups, but ruled the pilots were writing up the airplanes unjustly and ruling in the companies favor.
Worked for NWA and ASA. You are correct that he should be careful what he says on a public forum, but you are incorrect that we need play nice after 6 years. Playing nice will guarantee one thing only, 6 more years without a contract.
PMed you
What about all the unity "Kum ba ya" BS murph??
I haven't heard a thing from CptMurf, or any of my reps, but I am going to take a stab at this. Maybe because Pinnacle is picketing for their OWN contract, not as a joint force for all three of us? Where is the unity in THAT?
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This is truly turning into a charlie foxtrot quick. This may be worse than America West and U.S. Airways.
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Well... "Kum ba ya" is still needed. It just seems some have left the reservation. And we will ALL (3 groups involved here remember, not just 9E) pay for it. I now have to honor the solidarity of MY pilot group, which says not to walk. I was planning to be there, and I apologize to my friends for not being able to.
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