9E/XJ/9L contract is out

[RJLoser]

What's the word??

 

[damnflyboy]

Ok, you asked for it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA&ob=av2el

I'm so sorry.

 

[XJohXJ]

Ok, you asked for it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA&ob=av2el

I'm so sorry.

Thank you.

Really.

Thank you.

 

[titans10]

Heard it's better than ASA.

 

[79%N1]

Heard it's better than ASA.

For now. You do know ASA is negotiating one now, right?

 

[titans10]

Really. So 9E has set the bar for asa.

 

[johnpeace]

Really. So 9E has set the bar for asa.

Isn't that kind of what we're (ALPA carriers) supposed to do for each other...and for Skywest?

 

[79%N1]

Really. So 9E has set the bar for asa.

Except that in MANY WAYS ASA's current contract is better than the New PNCL contract. It isn't until the last couple years that PNCL catches ASA in rates, which ASA's will soon change, and the rest of the contract still doesn't measure up. So in a sense, Pinnacle didn't even match the bar set over 3 years ago by ASA. Enjoy living with it for 5-8 years!

 

[CptMurf]

Except that in MANY WAYS ASA's current contract is better than the New PNCL contract. It isn't until the last couple years that PNCL catches ASA in rates, which ASA's will soon change, and the rest of the contract still doesn't measure up. So in a sense, Pinnacle didn't even match the bar set over 3 years ago by ASA. Enjoy living with it for 5-8 years!

Except in many ways it's is not. This was a JCBA, a merging of the 3 carriers contracts, and a picking of the best they have to offer. To think that a JCBA will be better than the best practices each group currently has to offer, is foolish. So in a sense, ASA did not even match the bar of XJ's concessionary contract when they negotiated their own. You now get to merge with XJT and ride their coat tails into a better contract. PNCLs TA is a good deal for our groups and I hope we come together to be a strong, cohesive group. I will enjoy working under this contract, and with my new fellow pilots. Enjoy living with your cockiness the rest of your life though.

 

[79%N1]

Whatever!

I was simply responding to the chest thumper that said, "heard it is better than ASA's". You claim its better when the rates don't even catch ASA until about year 3 or 4 in some cases. Meanwhilst, ASA is also negotiating a new JCBA. Enjoy your contract.

 

[RJLoser]

Daaaaaaang 79 got told!

 

[CptMurf]

Whatever!

I was simply responding to the chest thumper that said, "heard it is better than ASA's". You claim its better when the rates don't even catch ASA until about year 3 or 4 in some cases. Meanwhilst, ASA is also negotiating a new JCBA. Enjoy your contract.

Troll somewhere else.

Even if this TA does not set the highest pay in the regional industry, it definately raises the floor. Some things in it, like leg guarantee, definately set a bar. It is good for the groups invovled, and overall is good for the industry. Good luck with your merger! And leave us to ours.

 

[Raskal]

I'm not sure what floor is raised with this, but as an XJ guy I'm voting no.

 

[Simon Says]

I'm not sure what floor is raised with this, but as an XJ guy I'm voting no.

As another XJ guy, I am voting YES.

 

[gojo]

I'm not sure what floor is raised with this, but as an XJ guy I'm voting no.

Can I ask why, and also how do you feel this would benifit anybody if this TA were to get voted down?

 

[titans10]

Except that in MANY WAYS ASA's current contract is better than the New PNCL contract. It isn't until the last couple years that PNCL catches ASA in rates, which ASA's will soon change, and the rest of the contract still doesn't measure up. So in a sense, Pinnacle didn't even match the bar set over 3 years ago by ASA. Enjoy living with it for 5-8 years!

I will enjoy living with it for 5-8 years. I will be making a h--l of alot more than you by far. Good luck with your merger/contract.

 

[79%N1]

I will enjoy living with it for 5-8 years. I will be making a h--l of alot more than you by far. Good luck with your merger/contract.

Congrats on your contract. I'm happy that you like it. You win.

 

[RJLoser]

79 you always have to worry about Jerry giving all your planes to his golden child and non union skyw.

 

[79%N1]

79 you always have to worry about Jerry giving all your planes to his golden child and non union skyw.

Or do we have protection in our current contract against that?

 

[Nevets]

Except that in MANY WAYS ASA's current contract is better than the New PNCL contract. It isn't until the last couple years that PNCL catches ASA in rates, which ASA's will soon change, and the rest of the contract still doesn't measure up. So in a sense, Pinnacle didn't even match the bar set over 3 years ago by ASA. Enjoy living with it for 5-8 years!

Except that in most ways XJT's current concessionary contract is better than the ASA contract! So what does that say about the TA? Sorry, couldn't help it.