9E, 9L, & XJ integration

[dondk]

We all hope you eat your words. FYI....I wouldn't rely too much on what happened with Colgan/PNCL in the past......this is a new ballgame my friend.

I must be missing something.

How is this a different ballgame? the only difference is the respective size of the companies PRIOR to acquisition.

 

[Kaman]

Absolutely PNCL Holdings knew this deal was in the works for a number of weeks if not months prior to the trigger being pulled. And, if I were a betting person I'd say that this is the initial round in a salvo of continuing airline consolidations taking place. It was only a matter of time after the AA/US, NW/DL and UA/CO mergers that things would trickle down to the regionals.
I don't think that this merger/asset transfer is taking place to make life easier on the employee groups. Airline mergers/acquisitions/bankruptcies are historically very, very tough on employees while management and the shareholders typically laugh all the way to the bank. Everyone needs to remember that you could very well be camping out where you are for awhile. When the age 65 rule kicks in and the senior legacy pilots begin retiring there will be some movement, but for attrition only. Reality is that there will still be a large number of applicants for relatively few seats. Don't be naive to even think that there is a "pilot shortage" at the legacy carriers. That was, is and will always be a myth (unless you want to spend $$$ having Kit Darby tell you otherwise).
Standby for heavy rolls ladies and gentleman, this isn't going to be the end of the consolidation (read that as LESS jobs, LESS airframes, LESS cost, etc...) and I fully expect to see scope extended to 150 seats in the future. Delta made a wise business decision to divest themselves of their regional carriers that they inherited from NWA. This opens the way for competitive bidding for the lift and relieves them of the cost.
Comair is going to next, and God help them if it is an asset sale. Delta has had it in for them since the strike and it has been a "#$%-storm" there ever since of uncertainty. I can see the same thing happening at Mesa too. All they have that is really of any value is their UEx -700 flying and US -900 flying and in the eyes of management the pilots there make too much money. Cheaper to sell off the airline piecemeal (Thanks for the memories J.O.) and boot the poor sods that work there out on the street to try and find a seat a slave wages.
I really hope that I am dead wrong about what the future holds in the industry, but if you really take an objective look at the macroeconomics it IS NOT a favorable picture for labor. Hopefully, we can all manage to stay employed and keep a roof over our heads thats not made out of cardboard.

Regards,

ex-Navy Rotorhead

 

[RJLoser]

I believe there is going to be a pilot shortage:

RETIREMENTS PER YEAR AT AGE 65

CAL
Year No.
2012 7
2013 183
2014 198
2015 186
2016 205
2017 210
2018 180
2019 194
2020 169
2021 188
2022 180
2023 187
2024 154
2025 156
2026 166
2027 167
2028 204
2029 154
2030 170
2031 119
3377

Delta (NWA Included)

2009 6
2010 13
2011 15
2012 24
2013 139
2014 238
2015 278
2016 330
2017 386
2018 469
2019 558
2020 645
2021 830
2022 870
2023 824
2024 811
2025 727
2026 626
2027 522
2028 491
2029 485
2030 509
2031 449
2032 347
2033 271
2034 182
2035 122
2036 103
2037 19
11289
UAL Numbers

2012 263
2013 235
2014 231
2015 201
2016 167
2017 228
2018 246
2019 239
2020 271
2021 330
2022 305
2023 383
2024 356
2025 461
2026 508
2027 503
2028 574
2029 539
2030 561
2031 407
7008

American

2010 0
2011 0
2012 5
2013 138
2014 225
2015 274
2016 262
2017 286
2018 363
2019 458
2020 550
2021 609
2022 661
2023 714
2024 726
2025 737
2026 711
2027 588
2028 498
2029 476
8281

 

[kmox29]

Ahhhh...the pilot shortage rumor.