9E, 9L, & XJ integration

[xjgearbtch]

Lear70 the LOA will not be applied. The LOA applies to an agreement between two separate companies. We are now owned by one company, this is a merger. The 3 MEC chairman, ALPA national and lawyers are applying their energy this week towards a fair merger between all three pilot groups. They will be meeting on the 29th in DC with the Pinnacle management to discuss.

The agreement to recall furloughed Mesaba employees completely negates the LOA.

"There will be no interview process for either carrier[REQUIRED BY LOA]; however, the pilot will be required to pass a background check, PRIA evaluation, a pre-employment drug screening, and any other evaluation as required by law. Additionally, the pilot will be treated as a new-hire for the respective airline’s seniority purposes (bidding), but will maintain their Mesaba longevity for pay, probationary concerns, vacation accrual, future seniority integration, etc [First Officers will begin to receive longevity credit commencing on the vacancy effective dates as provided in A.1.d. above.]

The pilot maintains a Mesaba seniority number for the entire duration of employment at either carrier, and will be treated as a Mesaba pilot for future recall and/or seniority list integration purposes. There will be no penalty if the pilot chooses not to accept an offer at either carrier. Current class dates are outlined in XJ Memo 10-45, and employment offers will be extended in seniority order.

Furloughed Mesaba pilots will have the ability to bypass a carrier’s class offer and go to the other carrier if they so choose; i.e., if Pinnacle calls first with a class date, the pilot may bypass the offer and wait for Colgan and vice versa. There will be no obligation to accept an employment offer at either company and this will not affect their furlough rights at Mesaba.

Pinnacle may offer a short-course for previously qualified CRJ pilots, and a long-course for pilots who do not have CRJ experience. As indicated above, employment offers will be in Mesaba seniority order at both airlines. However, training may be conducted out of seniority order to accommodate the differing training courses."

CAN'T just pick and choose which parts of the LOA to apply. Give it time the unions will do what is right with the Merger. The LOA is not applicable.

 

[Lear70]

The agreement to recall furloughed Mesaba employees completely negates the LOA.

So you negotiated away the prior LOA to be able to recall the furloughees? Interesting... well, at least those guys and gals will have a job,,, so well done.

CAN'T just pick and choose which parts of the LOA to apply. Give it time the unions will do what is right with the Merger. The LOA is not applicable.

You wouldn't have had to do that with that LOA, the companies, if still operated separately, would still trigger the LOA.

However, with the GUARANTEE to get the furloughees a job, sounds like the direction the MEC's are taking is a better route for more people.

 

[higney85]

For clarification this employment opportunity is an MOU, not a LOA.

 

[Lear70]

It's funny watching MEC's change the verbiage for what is, basically, the same thing.

An MOU *IS* an LOA for all intents and purposes - from the way they're negotiated to what they accomplish, just another name for an agreement between the company and the union. AirTran's MEC has done it a couple times to do end-runs around MemRat. Not a problem as long as it's benign or benefits the pilot group, but becomes a problem if it doesn't...

 

[Top Gum]

That's not *ENTIRELY* accurate. What management *MIGHT* do right now, or in the new future, may be totally changed by Pinnacle's contract talks, once they re-commence (likely next year). So what changes / integration might happen in the next 90-120 days might only last 6-8 months, depending on the pace of negotiations.

I agree, but the company is currently controlling the talks. They seem to have had the upper hand all along, especially right now. They know what the future holds while we can only guess. They have known about this purchase for a long time now and they are better prepared to achieve.

Ultimately, I think the man will make the decision. Not the pilot group.

 

[machaf]

PCL ALPA already tried to get Colgan on the PCL list, it went to arbitration. Management won. Nothing different is going to happen with Mesaba. I don't think XJ ALPA with the same ALPA lawyers will change anything. Precedent is already set...

Colgan and Mesaba will merge, jets will be transferred to Pinnacle, INC. I feel really bad for the Mesaba guys.

Prepare to bend over.

One list would be a huge win for the pilots, but it just ain't gonna happen.

I hope I eat my words.

 

[mesaba13]

I get the feeling you don't really feel bad for us. Did 9E have scope in your contract? I did'nt think so!

 

[callowayhd]

1 seniority list with a fair integration process for all parties involved.

I am sick of hearing XJ is better or 9E is better. No one is better. All three airlines are owned by one corporation, If you settle for 2 seniority lists, you will be playing into managements hands and the whipsaw continues.

Do you think 4 years from now they might try another switcheroo and take the jets from one and transfer to the other?

 

[Lear70]

Who said one airline was better than the other?? Chill, dude. Everyone there is in this together. :beer:

 

[SEVEN]

I hope I eat my words.

We all hope you eat your words. FYI....I wouldn't rely too much on what happened with Colgan/PNCL in the past......this is a new ballgame my friend.