2nd and 3rd year at SWA

[SB Diver]

I made a little more than $100K my third year just flying my line and not picking up any extra flying. I was doing mostly 3 day trips with an occasional 4 day trip every other month.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

I fly 16-17 days per month=115-125 tfp per month. 7yr FO, I'll do around 185 this year. Adding my retirement from "Brand X" and my businesses, I'll do 275...

 

[GuinessGuy]

Tejas luvs himself.....

 

[General Lee]

I fly 16-17 days per month=115-125 tfp per month. 7yr FO, I'll do around 185 this year. Adding my retirement from "Brand X" and my businesses, I'll do 275...

Take away your transgender operation and changing your name to Chaz-jet, and you are back down to $130K.




Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Take away your transgender operation and changing your name to Chaz-jet, and you are back down to $130K.




Bye Bye--General Lee

As much as I can not stand you....that was funny!

 

[vetteracer]

Internally names have been posted for Nov and Dec interviews. It did say a few names would be added for Jan interviews. Maybe a few calls to go, but I'd say the majority of the calls are complete.

Was there an email sent to fill out secondary information? Or did they just select from the initial online app and uploaded resume?

-Thanks

 

[Fly4$]

Yes that is correct.You will have alot of SWA pilots try to say different but you are correct. BWI LAX pays same as LAS LAX. That is why the senior pilots fly 12 legs a day doing LBB turns. the junior pilots fly two legs blocking 8 hrs.

Back to my IPA

Does this mean the 717 will start to go senior come 1-1-2015? Just wondering.

 

[slaquer5]

Does this mean the 717 will start to go senior come 1-1-2015? Just wondering.

2015 the 717 will not be the only other A/C to bid beside the 737

Just saying

 

[Dan Roman]

2015 the 717 will not be the only other A/C to bid beside the 737

Just saying

Be careful what you wish for. SWA has been successful because they kept their costs down. Flying only 737's has been a big factor in that equation. As you try to take on the legacies with their lower costs than before and get squeezed from the bottom by airlines like VA and JetBlue (pax's seem to really like them) adding a different type A/C and flying long haul routes were you won't have the high productivity advantage could hurt. You would have to compete solely by service. A lot of people prefer the legacy type service over the LCC type service for long haul flying. Laker, PeopleExpress, ATA, all didn't do that great trying to compete with the legacies, and that was when the legacies had much higher relative costs.
Also, you just took on a bunch more employees that are not exactly feeling the LUV that you guys do, that could change things going forward too. I'll be surprised if there aren't some lawsuits that come out of the fact that 'Gary' used strong arm tactics to force the AirTran pilots to vote against their will and prevent a realistic chance at arbitration.

 

[elcid]

I'll be surprised if there aren't some lawsuits that come out of the fact that 'Gary' used strong arm tactics to force the AirTran pilots to vote against their will and prevent a realistic chance at arbitration.

Oh for fugk's sake.

 

[slaquer5]

Also, you just took on a bunch more employees that are not exactly feeling the LUV that you guys do,

O really so Lear, Ty,PLC, ect are coming over pissed and angry. I am sure they appreciate your fighting for there cause and letting SWA know how they really feel when they come over.

Anything else you want to add as to what they are going to do when they come to SWA beside lawsuits?

 

[Dan Roman]

You guys sure get upset if anyone says anything about SWA that you don't agree with. This is an open forum for people from anywhere in the aviation spectrum to voice an opinion. Listening to someone who looks at something from a different point of view is usually a sign of intelligence. You can learn a lot from perspectives other than your own, even if they are wrong or you don't like what they say.

 

[75M]

O really so Lear, Ty,PLC, ect are coming over pissed and angry. I am sure they appreciate your fighting for there cause and letting SWA know how they really feel when they come over.

Anything else you want to add as to what they are going to do when they come to SWA beside lawsuits?

I watched those guys give it their all and go above/beyond for my entire time at FL. I seriously doubt that will change when they go to WN.

IMHO, Southwest is getting a good group.

 

[SWA Bubba]

You guys sure get upset if anyone says anything about SWA that you don't agree with. This is an open forum for people from anywhere in the aviation spectrum to voice an opinion. Listening to someone who looks at something from a different point of view is usually a sign of intelligence. You can learn a lot from perspectives other than your own, even if they are wrong or you don't like what they say.

Hey Dan,

You're right that people can learn from other perspectives other than their own. I wholeheartedly agree with that. And of course, this IS an open forum. But the majority of those "other perspectives" you referred to on this forum (not all, of course, but an azzload of 'em) were little more than thinly-disguised SWA bashing. Good God, just look at the "SWA techno challenged" thread started recently. Luckytohaveajob threw up something like 30 friggin' posts in a row, each essentially a one-liner saying how much he thinks Southwest sucks. All of them random and spiteful, with 98% of the "facts" listed patently false. What exactly am I supposed to learn from HIS perspective? What did you learn, Dan?

Even the post you made to Slaquer took a subtle jab, in that we should expect lawsuits and that there won't be any "luv." First, what's that got to do with anything on a thread about 2nd and 3rd year pay at SWA? Every damn thread that has any thing to to with SWA (questions about interview process, bidding, etc) gets turned into "Southwest blows," normally before the first page is over. I tell you what -I- get from most of these "perspectives." I learned that when some people get on an anonymous forum, they turn into complete azzholes, and that some people are either jealous, or have some other reason to hate SWA, and can't stop themselves from lashing out every chance they get.

Sure, not everyone is like that. There IS legitimate and constructive criticism out there. And most of the time, you fit into that category. But that's the minority. And second, to directly answer your assertion, I don't think there's gonna' be any lawsuits. I predict that in a few years, we'll ALL be feeling the luv, and that SWA-AAI will go down as one of the smoothest pilot integrations in history. Some of the threads lately have been Airtran guys getting a little excited about the transition and asking about what to expect, bidding strategies, how to maximize the paycheck, etc. That's good, don't you think? At least that's what they are until a random Delta, Alaska, or United guy hijacks the thread and turns it into the usual anti-SWA crapfest. THAT's certainly enlightening and helpful to all.

Whatever. Certainly we have hotheads here, and guys with little or no filter when responding to slights, but even YOU have to admit that Southwest garners more unsolicited attacks, cheap-shots, and random hate on this Forum than every other airline combined.

Bubba

 

[Dan Roman]

Actually I think luckytohaveajob went off his meds! From what I can see, the SWA bashing is a result of....
you guys do more boasting on here than anyone, you can't go around saying SWA rules and everyone else sucks, or ALPA sucks, or we are going to kick everyone's ass, etc. and not expect a backlash. SWA is a very good airline. It's certainly not everyone's first choice, but no airline is. Personally I would rather be a FO at my airline than #1 at SWA. But that doesn't mean I think my airline is better than anyone else's.

My take is how successful of a career you have is decided by how good your life is AWAY from your airline job. What kind of husband, father or friend you are and how much you enjoy your life is much more important than the size of your W2, your seniority or the name painted on the side of your airplane.