2nd and 3rd year at SWA

[Linedriver]

Just to give this thread a little perspective. Most here understand SWA is a place to be for the LONG TERM. We didn't come here for first (or second) year pay. We came for a career NOT the first three years
. I'm a mid senior Captain, work an extra two or three days a month and am on track to exceed $285k in 2011. I get 5 weeks of vacation that I parlay into a minimum of 14 days off per week awarded. The water is good here!!

What is the projected upgrade time at SWA?

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Hard to say right now as future plans are kept under a pretty tight lid. If post acquisition growth plans come to fruition, hopefully less than 10. Comparative captain pay takes about 5 years.

 

[shagadelic]

$50.17/trip

All extra fly paid at 2nd year rate of $84.65tfp
(extra fly is what all other pilots pick up at straight pay- for probies that's almost $10 more per trip than premium and it's easier to get bc most of the rest of us hold out for premium- and we can steal any trip assigned to a reserve at straight pay all the way until departure (though most of us ask the reserve what they want if it gets too close to dept and they've already driven in))

Not to split hairs, but you can't "steal" a trip after the reserve checks in unless he/she agrees to it. I had a guy try to do that one time, but I had already checked in... I told scheduling no thanks, I'll fly it (it was sweet, and I commute).

Any other time, I just call scheduling and take it if I want it. I normally do it the night before, so no phone call required to the reserve...

 

[dicko]

(I am referring to straight pay since I am a little junior for premium).

A 6 year FO is still too junior for Premium pay ? I'm assuming that it's bid for with base seniority. Are magic unicorns involved at any point ?

Can somebody explain, please ?

 

[scoreboardII]

It all depends on the environment, lots of trips, anybody can get premium, not so many trips as of late do to low line totals/time of year, less chance to get premium.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Magic unicorns?

 

[dicko]

Magic unicorns?

Yes. Magic Unicorns.

 

[PapaWoody]

Magic unicorns rock!!


PW

 

[slaquer5]

So, you are paid the same for a 3hr flight as a 1hr flight? $ per trip right?

Yes that is correct.You will have alot of SWA pilots try to say different but you are correct. BWI LAX pays same as LAS LAX. That is why the senior pilots fly 12 legs a day doing LBB turns. the junior pilots fly two legs blocking 8 hrs.

Back to my IPA

 

[saabcaptain]

To fly about 100 trips at straight pay takes about 13 working days a month at straight pay. The above quote was accurate most average about 100-105 a month with only a few being less than 100 or more than 120. Getting to 110-120 is easy if you pick up.

 

[SB Diver]

I made a little more than $100K my third year just flying my line and not picking up any extra flying. I was doing mostly 3 day trips with an occasional 4 day trip every other month.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

I fly 16-17 days per month=115-125 tfp per month. 7yr FO, I'll do around 185 this year. Adding my retirement from "Brand X" and my businesses, I'll do 275...

 

[GuinessGuy]

Tejas luvs himself.....

 

[General Lee]

I fly 16-17 days per month=115-125 tfp per month. 7yr FO, I'll do around 185 this year. Adding my retirement from "Brand X" and my businesses, I'll do 275...

Take away your transgender operation and changing your name to Chaz-jet, and you are back down to $130K.




Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Take away your transgender operation and changing your name to Chaz-jet, and you are back down to $130K.




Bye Bye--General Lee

As much as I can not stand you....that was funny!

 

[vetteracer]

Internally names have been posted for Nov and Dec interviews. It did say a few names would be added for Jan interviews. Maybe a few calls to go, but I'd say the majority of the calls are complete.

Was there an email sent to fill out secondary information? Or did they just select from the initial online app and uploaded resume?

-Thanks

 

[Fly4$]

Yes that is correct.You will have alot of SWA pilots try to say different but you are correct. BWI LAX pays same as LAS LAX. That is why the senior pilots fly 12 legs a day doing LBB turns. the junior pilots fly two legs blocking 8 hrs.

Back to my IPA

Does this mean the 717 will start to go senior come 1-1-2015? Just wondering.

 

[slaquer5]

Does this mean the 717 will start to go senior come 1-1-2015? Just wondering.

2015 the 717 will not be the only other A/C to bid beside the 737

Just saying

 

[Dan Roman]

2015 the 717 will not be the only other A/C to bid beside the 737

Just saying

Be careful what you wish for. SWA has been successful because they kept their costs down. Flying only 737's has been a big factor in that equation. As you try to take on the legacies with their lower costs than before and get squeezed from the bottom by airlines like VA and JetBlue (pax's seem to really like them) adding a different type A/C and flying long haul routes were you won't have the high productivity advantage could hurt. You would have to compete solely by service. A lot of people prefer the legacy type service over the LCC type service for long haul flying. Laker, PeopleExpress, ATA, all didn't do that great trying to compete with the legacies, and that was when the legacies had much higher relative costs.
Also, you just took on a bunch more employees that are not exactly feeling the LUV that you guys do, that could change things going forward too. I'll be surprised if there aren't some lawsuits that come out of the fact that 'Gary' used strong arm tactics to force the AirTran pilots to vote against their will and prevent a realistic chance at arbitration.

 

[elcid]

I'll be surprised if there aren't some lawsuits that come out of the fact that 'Gary' used strong arm tactics to force the AirTran pilots to vote against their will and prevent a realistic chance at arbitration.

Oh for fugk's sake.