2nd and 3rd year at SWA

[Linedriver]

Just curious, what does a 2nd and 3rd year FO make? After the conversion, a little extra flying, blah, blah, blah... What are some W-2's?

 

[Flying the Line]

2nd is 84.65 and 3rd is 94.25 a trip. 100 trips a month times 12 months. Several people fly more, and only a few fly less.

 

[Linedriver]

2nd is 84.65 and 3rd is 94.25 a trip. 100 trips a month times 12 months. Several people fly more, and only a few fly less.

How man working days a month to get the 100 trips? Mostly 3 day trips? Any chatter about a DEN base?

 

[Khaver01]

I have RJ Pilot bills to pay, so I fly minimum 125 trips a month (no premium time for JR me). Easy to do as jr. weekend lineholder (310 hrs TAFB, per diem $2.15). If you want to work hard, vacation and training months can bring you up and sometimes over 145 trips. I am on 4th yr pay of $104.03. Gross $13,000 plus per month. Not boasting - I earn it....and my great employer values my work ethic and the "bottom line."

 

[i fly boxes]

are interview calls done already?

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

I have RJ Pilot bills to pay, so I fly minimum 125 trips a month (no premium time for JR me). Easy to do as jr. weekend lineholder (310 hrs TAFB, per diem $2.15). If you want to work hard, vacation and training months can bring you up and sometimes over 145 trips. I am on 4th yr pay of $104.03. Gross $13,000 plus per month. Not boasting - I earn it....and my great employer values my work ethic and the "bottom line."

Last year, one third at 3rd year, two thirds at 4th year pay, I grossed 144...worked my Ass off for me (135trips per month) since 5th year pay, only do 100 per month, usually 16-17 days off a month, I can hold no premium which is fine with me, I enjoy the QOL I have, I commute, different strokes for different folks! I do 20% to 401k, hit the 16500 cap on august 20th check, instant pay raise and Easy Street for me personally!

You can make as much (or as little) as you want here, the quicker you figure out the system the better!

Later,
KBB

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Sorry, double post!

Later,
KBB

 

[m80drvr]

What is first year pay?

 

[Whataburger]

100tfp = 17 days off, roughly.

A "normal" pilot can average 7.5-8tfp/day. Absolulute MIN pay/day is 6.5tfp or .74tfp/duty hr whichever is greater.

Lines are built to 90-103 trips usually. From 16-20 days off.

Reserve = 15 days of work/mo.

 

[waveflyer]

What is first year pay?

$50.17/trip

All extra fly paid at 2nd year rate of $84.65tfp
(extra fly is what all other pilots pick up at straight pay- for probies that's almost $10 more per trip than premium and it's easier to get bc most of the rest of us hold out for premium- and we can steal any trip assigned to a reserve at straight pay all the way until departure (though most of us ask the reserve what they want if it gets too close to dept and they've already driven in))

For the OP, I made $108k in my mixed 2nd/3rd year

 

[mokitty]

are interview calls done already?

Internally names have been posted for Nov and Dec interviews. It did say a few names would be added for Jan interviews. Maybe a few calls to go, but I'd say the majority of the calls are complete.

 

[JA'd]

The beauty of the system is the choice is yours. You want to stay home with the family more and commute less, fly your line and give some away and be home 18plus days a month. The problem is once you see how efficient the trips are and how quickly your trips for pay increase picking up is hard to pass up (I am referring to straight pay since I am a little junior for premium). The real fun comes when you get reroutes etc... This used to be the kiss of death at my old regional because of cancellations. Here you usually end up with more pay during weather/cancellation trips.

 

[scoreboardII]

I heard 140 emails went out, 90 plus returned within 60 minutes, other 50 or so still need to have a call or return email. Check you email guys!

 

[Linedriver]

Can you put your profit sharing in your 401k?

 

[SWA Bubba]

Can you put your profit sharing in your 401k?

Nope. Separate accounts, but both tax-deferred. I believe there's a few common ways in both to invest your money, but since the accounts are administered differently, the majority of investment choices are different between the two. The 401-k is administered by SWAPA (rated one of the top in the country, by the way), and the profit sharing accounts are administered by the company. It's kinda' like a second 401-k account. Kinda'.

Hope this helps,
Bubba

 

[airplane wizard]

So, you are paid the same for a 3hr flight as a 1hr flight? $ per trip right?

 

[waveflyer]

Yes-
BWI-SAN pays the same as PHX-SAN, but you do get a card saying the company Luvs you, and two extra rations of kook aid on the longer flight....

 

[waveflyer]

So, you are paid the same for a 3hr flight as a 1hr flight? $ per trip right?

Exactly right. BWI-SAN pays the same as PHX-SAN. but you do get two extra rations of koolaid on the longer flight...

 

[shootr]

So, you are paid the same for a 3hr flight as a 1hr flight? $ per trip right?

uh...

no

 

[75cutter]

Just to give this thread a little perspective. Most here understand SWA is a place to be for the LONG TERM. We didn't come here for first (or second) year pay. We came for a career NOT the first three years
. I'm a mid senior Captain, work an extra two or three days a month and am on track to exceed $285k in 2011. I get 5 weeks of vacation that I parlay into a minimum of 14 days off per week awarded. The water is good here!!

 

[Linedriver]

Just to give this thread a little perspective. Most here understand SWA is a place to be for the LONG TERM. We didn't come here for first (or second) year pay. We came for a career NOT the first three years
. I'm a mid senior Captain, work an extra two or three days a month and am on track to exceed $285k in 2011. I get 5 weeks of vacation that I parlay into a minimum of 14 days off per week awarded. The water is good here!!

What is the projected upgrade time at SWA?

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Hard to say right now as future plans are kept under a pretty tight lid. If post acquisition growth plans come to fruition, hopefully less than 10. Comparative captain pay takes about 5 years.

 

[shagadelic]

$50.17/trip

All extra fly paid at 2nd year rate of $84.65tfp
(extra fly is what all other pilots pick up at straight pay- for probies that's almost $10 more per trip than premium and it's easier to get bc most of the rest of us hold out for premium- and we can steal any trip assigned to a reserve at straight pay all the way until departure (though most of us ask the reserve what they want if it gets too close to dept and they've already driven in))

Not to split hairs, but you can't "steal" a trip after the reserve checks in unless he/she agrees to it. I had a guy try to do that one time, but I had already checked in... I told scheduling no thanks, I'll fly it (it was sweet, and I commute).

Any other time, I just call scheduling and take it if I want it. I normally do it the night before, so no phone call required to the reserve...

 

[dicko]

(I am referring to straight pay since I am a little junior for premium).

A 6 year FO is still too junior for Premium pay ? I'm assuming that it's bid for with base seniority. Are magic unicorns involved at any point ?

Can somebody explain, please ?

 

[scoreboardII]

It all depends on the environment, lots of trips, anybody can get premium, not so many trips as of late do to low line totals/time of year, less chance to get premium.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Magic unicorns?

 

[dicko]

Magic unicorns?

Yes. Magic Unicorns.

 

[PapaWoody]

Magic unicorns rock!!


PW

 

[slaquer5]

So, you are paid the same for a 3hr flight as a 1hr flight? $ per trip right?

Yes that is correct.You will have alot of SWA pilots try to say different but you are correct. BWI LAX pays same as LAS LAX. That is why the senior pilots fly 12 legs a day doing LBB turns. the junior pilots fly two legs blocking 8 hrs.

Back to my IPA

 

[saabcaptain]

To fly about 100 trips at straight pay takes about 13 working days a month at straight pay. The above quote was accurate most average about 100-105 a month with only a few being less than 100 or more than 120. Getting to 110-120 is easy if you pick up.