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Linedriver

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Just curious, what does a 2nd and 3rd year FO make? After the conversion, a little extra flying, blah, blah, blah... What are some W-2's?
 
2nd is 84.65 and 3rd is 94.25 a trip. 100 trips a month times 12 months. Several people fly more, and only a few fly less.
 
I have RJ Pilot bills to pay, so I fly minimum 125 trips a month (no premium time for JR me). Easy to do as jr. weekend lineholder (310 hrs TAFB, per diem $2.15). If you want to work hard, vacation and training months can bring you up and sometimes over 145 trips. I am on 4th yr pay of $104.03. Gross $13,000 plus per month. Not boasting - I earn it....and my great employer values my work ethic and the "bottom line."
 
I have RJ Pilot bills to pay, so I fly minimum 125 trips a month (no premium time for JR me). Easy to do as jr. weekend lineholder (310 hrs TAFB, per diem $2.15). If you want to work hard, vacation and training months can bring you up and sometimes over 145 trips. I am on 4th yr pay of $104.03. Gross $13,000 plus per month. Not boasting - I earn it....and my great employer values my work ethic and the "bottom line."

Last year, one third at 3rd year, two thirds at 4th year pay, I grossed 144...worked my Ass off for me (135trips per month) since 5th year pay, only do 100 per month, usually 16-17 days off a month, I can hold no premium which is fine with me, I enjoy the QOL I have, I commute, different strokes for different folks! I do 20% to 401k, hit the 16500 cap on august 20th check, instant pay raise and Easy Street for me personally!

You can make as much (or as little) as you want here, the quicker you figure out the system the better!

Later,
KBB
 
What is first year pay?
 
100tfp = 17 days off, roughly.

A "normal" pilot can average 7.5-8tfp/day. Absolulute MIN pay/day is 6.5tfp or .74tfp/duty hr whichever is greater.

Lines are built to 90-103 trips usually. From 16-20 days off.

Reserve = 15 days of work/mo.
 
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What is first year pay?

$50.17/trip

All extra fly paid at 2nd year rate of $84.65tfp
(extra fly is what all other pilots pick up at straight pay- for probies that's almost $10 more per trip than premium and it's easier to get bc most of the rest of us hold out for premium- and we can steal any trip assigned to a reserve at straight pay all the way until departure (though most of us ask the reserve what they want if it gets too close to dept and they've already driven in))

For the OP, I made $108k in my mixed 2nd/3rd year
 
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The beauty of the system is the choice is yours. You want to stay home with the family more and commute less, fly your line and give some away and be home 18plus days a month. The problem is once you see how efficient the trips are and how quickly your trips for pay increase picking up is hard to pass up (I am referring to straight pay since I am a little junior for premium). The real fun comes when you get reroutes etc... This used to be the kiss of death at my old regional because of cancellations. Here you usually end up with more pay during weather/cancellation trips.
 
I heard 140 emails went out, 90 plus returned within 60 minutes, other 50 or so still need to have a call or return email. Check you email guys!
 
Can you put your profit sharing in your 401k?


Nope. Separate accounts, but both tax-deferred. I believe there's a few common ways in both to invest your money, but since the accounts are administered differently, the majority of investment choices are different between the two. The 401-k is administered by SWAPA (rated one of the top in the country, by the way), and the profit sharing accounts are administered by the company. It's kinda' like a second 401-k account. Kinda'.

Hope this helps,
Bubba
 
Yes-
BWI-SAN pays the same as PHX-SAN, but you do get a card saying the company Luvs you, and two extra rations of kook aid on the longer flight....
 
So, you are paid the same for a 3hr flight as a 1hr flight? $ per trip right?

Exactly right. BWI-SAN pays the same as PHX-SAN. but you do get two extra rations of koolaid on the longer flight...
 
Just to give this thread a little perspective. Most here understand SWA is a place to be for the LONG TERM. We didn't come here for first (or second) year pay. We came for a career NOT the first three years
. I'm a mid senior Captain, work an extra two or three days a month and am on track to exceed $285k in 2011. I get 5 weeks of vacation that I parlay into a minimum of 14 days off per week awarded. The water is good here!!
 

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