2000 hour wonders hired at Delta

[UALRATT]

Yep...pretty much, but it is oh so entertaining! The semiannual mil vs civ thread is a tried and true FI tradition!:laugh:

Yeah!! Who won it the last time??

BTW, my Breitling Navitimer is bigger than your Breitling Navitimer...:smash:

 

[bubbers44]

I'm going to the Reno Air Races tomorrow. Most everybody flying is civilian but they are not cocky, they are gentlemen. Even though they are flying P51s they don't act like sky gods. Why do some of our group think they are so special because they came from the military? Grow up guys.

 

[Flyer1015]

Ah, yes, the WIA. 2 female CAs from Pinnacle alone got free type ratings on the 737 through WIA, interviews with SWA through those connections, and are now at SWA based in OAK. Meanwhile, I know 3 male CAs at my airline who paid $5000-$8000 for a type rating out of their own pocket, and were still waiting for a phone call in 2008 (when those ladies got hired).

So yes, some have it easier than others. No denying the 'woman' advantage in our pilot field. But why has this thread turned into a military vs regional experience bashing?

Edit to my post above. The word 'not' should have been 'now'

 

[UALRATT]

Ah, yes, the WIA. 2 female CAs from Pinnacle alone got free type ratings on the 737 through WIA, interviews with SWA through those connections, and are not at SWA based in OAK. Meanwhile, I know 3 male CAs at my airline who paid $5000-$8000 for a type rating out of their own pocket, and were still waiting for a phone call in 2008 (when those ladies got hired).

So yes, some have it easier than others. No denying the 'woman' advantage in our pilot field. But why has this thread turned into a military vs regional experience bashing?

WTFO!! Are you encouraging sex changes now just to fit into the bottom 2-3% of a white male dominated profession. You my idiot, fall in the top 98 percentile of that group!

As of 2006, just over 6% of certified civilian pilots (both private and commercial) in the U.S. were women.

The percentage of women airline pilots is about 5% worldwide

As of June 2004, United has the most women pilots, a total of 513 on a seniority list totaling over 8800 pilots.

Do the math or just get your sex change done. Your choice!

 

[rod farva]

Yeah!! Who won it the last time??

BTW, my Breitling Navitimer is bigger than your Breitling Navitimer...:smash:

My old man once told me the size of a man's watch is inversely proportional to his dong size.

 

[UALRATT]

My old man once told me the size of a man's watch is inversely proportional to his dong size.

Either he was too frugal to get the proper time piece for an chest thumping Aviator or he was just trying to boost the confidence level of his poor son...:laugh: The problem you now have is convincing your old man that you found out he was wrong on FI.

 

[rod farva]

Either he was too frugal to get the proper time piece for an chest thumping Aviator or he was just trying to boost the confidence level of his poor son...:laugh: The problem you now have is convincing your old man that you found out he was wrong on FI.

Ha!! Between FI and Saved By The Bell I should turn out all right.

 

[rod farva]

Should us off-the-street guys hired in early August plan on being in the pool while flowthroughs fill the retirements for the next 5 years?

 

[nightfr8er]

You might want to get over yourself, and pass that on to your "Delta buddies
PS. Fighter time does NOT make you a good airline pilot. It makes you a good fighter pilot.

Can I get an AMEN?

 

[waveflyer]

It's funny how if a white male oily sucks- he just sucks because he sucks.
If a female or minority are bad- they're bad BECAUSE they are a female or because they are black. And white guys use that to justify how they have it so hard in the big bad world.

acl65 said it right- most of the white male pilots I know who haven't had opportunities
didn't network and apply half the pressure to their opportunities that I did.

Get this- if you passed a law tomorrow that banned all girls and minorities- you wouldn't get hired any faster

 

[CessnaFan]

<<Spin experience is useless for transport category.>>

Unless your flying USAIR Flight 427. Do the research and let me know what you think. ALL experience is good, and at certain times a certain type of experience is much better than others. The challenge is that you'll never really know what you need until you need it, and I hope that when that happens it's right there for you.....

 

[lindsaya99]

Get this- if you passed a law tomorrow that banned all girls and minorities- you wouldn't get hired any faster

How about we pass a law that bans giving preferential treatment based on gender or race. Oh wait.

 

[ExAF]

BTW, my Breitling Navitimer is bigger than your Breitling Navitimer...:smash:

You know what they say.......big watch, little richard! :laugh: Me....Timex Expedition.

 

[UALRATT]

You know what they say.......big watch, little richard! :laugh: Me....Timex Expedition.

But your Expedition is bigger than my Navitimer, ain't it?:smash:

 

[Metro752]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muj26g3eugU

 

[ExAF]

Nope

But your Expedition is bigger than my Navitimer, ain't it?:smash:

Nope...:uzi:the Expedition is smaller...I pride myself on having a small/cheap watch even though it is counter-culture for a fighter pilot (now airline pilot). :beer: Now, back to the semiannual mil vs civ sword fight!

 

[jonjuan]

acl65 said it right- most of the white male pilots I know who haven't had opportunities
didn't network and apply half the pressure to their opportunities that I did.

Get this- if you passed a law tomorrow that banned all girls and minorities- you wouldn't get hired any faster

But then what would they blame their failing career progression on?

 

[Maria]

I thought this was a no holds barred fight? I've heard the usual mil vs. civilian with a regional captain vs. mil captain twist, male vs. female, Riddle rat vs. rest of the world, transport vs. fighter, and even some crashes discussed.

We haven't approached the flatlanders vs. the mountain flyers or training in a farmer's field in nowhere vs. high density airspace nor the high-wing vs. low-wing training issues yet. C'mon guys, get with it.

Now, if a plane is on a treadmill and a military pilot is at the controls, will it takeoff sooner than if a female RJ captain who trained in a low-wing in high density airspace during bad weather but has a big watch was at the controls?

 

[dillfer]

Now, if a plane is on a treadmill and a military pilot is at the controls, will it takeoff sooner than if a female RJ captain who trained in a low-wing in high density airspace during bad weather was at the controls?

HAH!! Now that's funny!

 

[HA25]

I'd just like to get the opinion of pilots at Delta about the recent new hires. Especially Delta Captains

I personally know of 4-5 new hires from ASA of the female persuasion. I'm sure there are more. I don't have any problems with gender, and I get it that certain boxes have to be checked off but come on.

As a regional Captain that had to tolerate the 600 hour wonders I flew with a few years ago, I am wondering if you guys know/care about what is heading your way? I flew with one of these pilots and I really don't know what to say. No personality, no skills.

My problem is that AT LEAST 2 or three have ZERO PIC in anything larger than a Seminole. One has around 2000 hours. Is that the safest decision for your passengers? Why are so many qualified pilots being weeded out to hire these folks?

Well, at least two of them are history making aviators with recognition in the Smithsonian.

The last hiring wave at Delta, I heard of a couple FO's who were hired, but THIS time it seems the a large percentage are low PIC time females. Anything to do with the flowthrough? How do you Captains feel knowing the experience level coming your way?

Back in 2007 when I went in, they hired 3 of 7... two were USAF Academy, and the one civilian was a female with Caravan time and some piston multi.. DAL has gone the UAL way in recent years... it's just the way the nation has gone.. the feminists won't be happy until 1/2 of all jobs, including construction and rancher are filled by women.