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If the rate on the -700 and -900 are tied to the -200 rate, it ain't a split my friend. It's an override. There is a difference.

If it were truly a split rate, a potential future pay cut on the -200 wouldn't affect the -700 and the -900, right? It would the way this is structured. Can of worms..............


AF :cool:

Hopefully more people will understand that...

SkyWest fortune could quickly change if US Airways succeeds in their Delta buyout. Let's not forget that Air Wisconsin invested in US Airways when they were in Bankruptcy, and as a result have a seat on their board now.
All that Delta Connection flying for SkyWest could go as quickly as it came...
 
Simple. I'd vote ALPA in.

The rediculous notion of flying 70 AND 90-seat aircraft for 50-seat pay is hurting more than the regionals. Would somebody explain to me why ALPA-represented majors aren't refusing to hire non-union Skywest pilots?

I'll answer that myself: they're too busy b!tching at the other ALPA carriers.

What a GREAT union!

Let me get this straight. Voting ALPA in will make everything better? Ok. It wouldn't change what they already have. It would improve some things but it won't change what already is. At least not overnight.

They are currently flying up to 70 seats for better than almost everyone's 50 seat rate. Granted, it is up to 99 seats but that is not what is currently going on. Next year it will be 76 seats.

Hindsight is 20/20. If they knew now back then would they have done the same? I don't believe so.

Calling them names is gonna change anything?

Whatever, I'm just tired of all the BS. Ya'll can have it. I'll be on the next job offer outta here if I can.

You can bet ASA won't get the planes! But you can bet that our managment will try to hold it over our heads. Something to the effect that "we will lose that flying if you don't take what we are offering". BLah Blah Blah.....
 
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I have been flying on SKYW for a lot of years, being from the west coast. You guys have a good operation with good people. However, to those of you who say you have no control over where airplanes go, I call BS.

When you decided to fly for one rate, you stuck a knife in the backs of many regional pilots. When you decided to not fight when the one rate was supposed to be done, you twisted that knife.

Unfortunately, management makes the decisions on where airplanes go based largely on what pilots are willing to fly them for. So, while you didn't directly ask to fly Comair or ASA airplanes, you provided the motivation for management to give them to you, i.e. you do have some control over the situation.

Nobody is asking for you to refuse them. We are asking for you to get your chit together and raise your pay on the 70/90. I don't care if you do it with ALPA or without, just do it.

Again, I am not angry. I respect your pilot group. I hope you have the same respect for ours. When I hear you defending yourselves, as if you meant no harm to other groups, that angers me because it is ignorant. Maybe your single rate wasn't intended by you as a slap to our face, but it is being used that way by your management, and you are allowing them to get away with it, even defending it. Please try to take a look at the consequences for other DCI pilots. Furloughs, pay cuts, displacements, downgrades, relocation, starting over somewhere else, lack of bargaining power, etc. Even if you don't care about us, do it for yourselves, because it will eventually come full circle and bite you back.
 
Hopefully more people will understand that...

SkyWest fortune could quickly change if US Airways succeeds in their Delta buyout. Let's not forget that Air Wisconsin invested in US Airways when they were in Bankruptcy, and as a result have a seat on their board now.
All that Delta Connection flying for SkyWest could go as quickly as it came...

in 14 years after the contracts up maybe
 
Last time i checked Skywest was only taking 13 of ASA's 70's to cover the SLC flying, ASA has 35 or so before this 13 was announced. Skywest is not taking all of ASA's 70's, so far.

Medeco

Not to mention the ATR is leaving ASA summer next year, that happens to be 12 aircraft.
 
You can insult Skywest pilots all you want but believe it or not none of us took a vote to screw you guys.



No, but I don't hear very many of you guys saying sorry either. Someday this is going to happen to you, and all I can say is karma's a bitch.
 
Hypothetically..........if SKYW Inc. decides to send all of SKYW Airlines -200 over to ASA, you guys would say 'sorry'. Then what? ASA does fly them for less, right?

Just curious how this would be handled any better than the SKYW guys have done it.


AF :cool:
 

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