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    Final Agreement reached

    I'd give up all my seniority for an upgrade right now.... where do I sign up?
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    Tranny ALPA MEC - Dragging their feet

    How many of you commute? I think we sent out some fancy packets to lots of addresses.
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    SWAPA is a joke

    Are you sure its SWAPA that is messing with the AIP? ;) Good luck Fing w GK...hope your MEC shoots this down.
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    Tranny ALPA MEC - Dragging their feet

    19-0 had nothing to do with liking the deal. Think a bit and you might get why. Personalities are involved. Most of us hope your MEC shoots this down, myself included.
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    SLI is out, it looks good for both sides

    The 2020 upgrade issue is reflecting a ZERO growth scenario. Obviously if we double in size tomorrow, all of us will be captains tomorrow. The 2600 FOs are just simply the ones that are senior to all AT FOs in the combined list.
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    SWAPA might like SWA proposal

    serenity now.......
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    ATNALPA Communication

    Following the Merger Closing, Southwest and AirTran Airways would each continue to operate as separate air carriers unless and until Southwest combines Southwest and AirTran Airways into a single air carrier. Reread the process agreement. That said, I hope this thing is resolved over the...
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    SWAPA might like SWA proposal

    There are way too many variables to consider. If you were given $5 million and a straight staple would you take it? I would...heck I would resign for that much cash. How about $1? Now that is just one variable. Seniority, as much as you want it to be, is NOT everything. If it was, I would have...
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    SWAPA might like SWA proposal

    This is probably the 100th time I've read this kind of reasoning and I've chosen to ignore it until now. I'm going to first address the obvious difference, generally speaking, in our collective mentality and AAI's. A point like yours is made when all that matters is YOU. There is no ownership of...
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    SWAPA might like SWA proposal

    Have you ever read a 10-Q, 10-K, 8-K, etc? Do yourself a favor and read any company's fine print in the Forward Looking Statements. Gary will do what he needs to. Thanks for the chuckle on the jail time, btw!!! Good stuff ;)
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    SWAPA might like SWA proposal

    Yes. One and done from the company is a possibility, in fact, more likely a probability. Otherwise onward with the process and continued uncertainty on both sides.
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    SWAPA might like SWA proposal

    Yes. SWA is under no obligation to negotiate with the two unions. They have made an offer. There is no guarantee they make any more offers in the process.
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    SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

    Would you rather be 70% on a 10 pilot list or a 10,000 pilot list? That should answer your question.
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    SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

    Section 2.d is null and void if an amicable agreement is NOT reached. That said, I hope it doesn't come to that.
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    "winning the lotto"

    ..........see above for answer.
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    SWAPA calls all former AirTran pilots

    Just a quick thought...An arbitrator is not capable of making UNIQUE judgments such as pay protection, special bases, etc...
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    Airtran posts 4th quarter profit of 1.9 million

    "Gaming the system" is nothing more than living in base and understanding legality/scheduling rules. It is quite easy to set yourself up for some real nice premium time, especially in the summer. I'm a 4th year FO (on third year for almost half the year), worked it during the summer, and made...
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    Airtran Pilots

    Apparently you know nothing about the DL/NWA merger. First of all retirements WERE looked at by the arbitrators. Hence they unplugged some pilots out of order and repositioned them on the merged list. Second, comparing DL/NWA career expectations to AAI/LUV is a joke. You know it, I know it, and...
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    Airtran Pilots

    Let me dust myself off since I haven't looked at an FI thread in a very long time.....I will attempt to explain why SWA pilots are going to have to get a seniority boost in order to retain their career expectations with simple math. If your airline has 10 pilots it would take only one more...
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