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US Airways MEC files lawsuit against AWA MEC
I'm also another west pilot who didn't want this so called merger either. I will only agree with fences with the above restrictions --west has stagnated while Doogie has fiddled with east.--one thing that chaps my hide is the east claiming that west pilots should never be allowed in wide bodies... -
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Skybus' "rules of the sky"
Every airline is running a load factor of 80% plus which is essentially full and they are turning away business--yet airline execs like Doogie Parkweiser say we have too much capacity..... I don't think so--although if you can't make money hand over fist with the flights this full then there is... -
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ALPA Signs off on Age 65
Who's to say that keeping age 60 is the wish of the majority? It it hadn't been for ALPA's opposition it would have changed several years ago. I for one am happy that ALPA has finally come to its senses--maybe I'll give to ALPA pac to make up for all the pissed off children. I think the... -
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Age 65 on fast track
I'm in my right mind and I would like to be able to work past age 60 if I want to. I don't know about the rest of you, but I actually look forward to going to work, every day in the air brings something new and interesting, the very worst day in the cockpit beats the very best day behind a desk... -
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ALPA Age 65 Vote
I've been away for awhile, but watching this thread and talking about unity in ALPA is hilarious. Ain't no unity in ALPA and there won't be. The big elephant in the room is that the rest of the world went to age 65 last November, and unless ALPA is going to vigorously oppose over 60 pilots for... -
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ALPA BRP survey question
All you who want the age to remain at 60 should be screaming bloody murder for ALPA to oppose letting foreign airlines fly in our airspace with pilots over the age of 60 because it is such a hazard. Obviously some ALPA members want to see age 60 change, John Prater didn't hide his views on it... -
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Effective date for age 65
Excuse me, but when exactly was your upgrade scheduled for? You never know in this business, and remember the people junior to you are hoping that age 65 doesn't take effect until the day after you turn 60. Airfogey -
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Pre-9/11 Pay
It wasn't so much the pay rates as the lack of productivity that hurt the legacies-in the "good ole days" I believe UAL was flying about 34 hours/month actual hard time per pilot versus over 70 hours at Southwest--not saying thats good or bad but Southwest didn't go thru the gut wrenching trauma... -
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From the ALPA Age 60 Website...
Well Flopgut, I'm certainly not anymore deserving than anybody else, and I've got seven years to go under the present rules and if it doesn't change in this country I can always look for a flying job overseas and fly til I'm 65 if I want. ALPA changed their stance against age 60 in 1980 under... -
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AirTran Pilots and Union Board Support Changing FAA Age 60 Rule
I don't think you opened up a can of worms at all--however I have been in the civilian airline industry for 24 years now and I'm constantly amazed to listen to all the bellyaching about how miserable you all are and if the retirement age increases it will all ruin your lives cause you want to be... -
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AirTran Pilots and Union Board Support Changing FAA Age 60 Rule
Duh, now you know how ALPO does its poling also--however if at AIRTRAN you only have 50 pilots hitting 60 in the next five years then you should realize that the way 99% of the upgrades at AIRTRAN will be is because of expansion--not attrition--and that is how the vast majority of upgrades have... -
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From the ALPA Age 60 Website...
I would like to see an honest poll--ALPA would not allow any pro change info during their "discussion" two years ago prior to that poll,and I'm told that they used "statistical norming" to get the results they wanted. Lets see since that time USAIRWAYS east, Delta, and United have lost their... -
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APA Pilots polled. No to age 60.
Does anybody remember that as of Nov 23, 2006 pilots working for foreign airlines, including Americans, are now able to fly into our skies while American pilots flying for American carriers cannot, so if you can get your unions and the FAA to keep our retirement at 60 then you'd better get them... -
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APA Pilots polled. No to age 60.
Yes I was for AWAPA, and the more I see of ALPA, the more I wish we had created AWAPA. Airfogey -
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APA Pilots polled. No to age 60.
ALPA's going to get their 1.96% from the same amount of people regardless of any age change. Personally I would not mind if every retiree between 60-65 that wanted to come back did. ALPA had 12000 members in 1978 and over 60000 today--most growth has come from expansion and more people flying... -
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APA Pilots polled. No to age 60.
People talk about the windfall that will go to the 50ish pilots when age 60 changes(and it will change) well what about the windfall that came to the pilots who moved up quickly when all of the over 60 pilots were summarily retired when age 60 took effect. I predict that 5 yrs after the change... -
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APA Pilots polled. No to age 60.
APA would be all for changing the age 60 rule if American had terminated their A plan--they don't care a fig for the travelling public-just follow the money. Airfogey -
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Anybody for the Age 60 Change Happen to have children who are pilots?
What Dan Roman posted was right on, great user name. wish I'd thought of it. I have two sons in college and flying training myself. Airfogey -
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Age 60 informal poll
Watch, APA change their tune if American's A plan goes away--its never been about safety, past present or future. Airfogey -
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Pilot forced to retire--Boo hoo! Freaking baby!
Alpa fought the rule for over 20 years during regulation when careers were stable, no one got hired over age 30, and salaries and pensions were generous. However since deregulation the industry is five times bigger than it was, so for every upgrade because of someone retiring at 60 four or five... -