Stop the divisive SWA AAI stuff

[Daddy]

I'm just not seeing the airtran vs SWA animosity out on the line. Just dudes flying airplanes.

 

[slaquer5]

I'm just not seeing the airtran vs SWA animosity out on the line. Just dudes flying airplanes.

I agree


I don't see it here except for GL. and Dan R. two peas in a pod


Oh and PCL , but he is not coming over .


Scratch that last statement , he is now waffling on the SWAPA Fourm about coming over.


PCL. when you come over ,you need to bid PHX. The colonels out there will love you.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Southwest carries more domestic passengers in the US than any other carrier, I think most will agree that's more than a niche.

Operating word is Domestic.....

Thats like saying you are the largest carpet seller in Cleveland....it doesnt make people in the industry stop and kiss your feet out of respect.

Get over yourself Howard

 

[redflyer65]

Hate to break it to you Bill, but we almost fly as many people 'DOMESTICALLY' than Delta does combined.

2013 Passenger Enplaned (2013 annual):

Delta: 120.3 Million
SW: 115.3 Million

We carry almost 20% more domestic passengers than Delta, or close to what a combined American and United operation would do.

A little bigger than you carpet salesman comment there Bill, but I know you didn't even look into it before posting...again.

Edit: I guess those numbers are so close because they don't have all your 'regional partners'. Not sure if that is something to be proud of, or just embarrassed about.

 

[HowardBorden]

Operating word is Domestic.....

Thats like saying you are the largest carpet seller in Cleveland....it doesnt make people in the industry stop and kiss your feet out of respect.

Get over yourself Howard

Actually Bill it wouldn't be anything like saying you were the largest seller in a single city in Ohio. However, saying your the largest seller in the United States would be an accurate analogy. There is a large difference.

 

[HowardBorden]

Hate to break it to you Bill, but we almost fly as many people 'DOMESTICALLY' than Delta does combined.

2013 Passenger Enplaned (2013 annual):

Delta: 120.3 Million
SW: 115.3 Million

We carry almost 20% more domestic passengers than Delta, or close to what a combined American and United operation would do.

A little bigger than you carpet salesman comment there Bill, but I know you didn't even look into it before posting...again.

Edit: I guess those numbers are so close because they don't have all your 'regional partners'. Not sure if that is something to be proud of, or just embarrassed about.

Actually, those numbers are a little misleading. In 2013 SWA and AirTran were reporting separately even though operating under a single operating certificate. Here are the combined totals.

SWA: 133.140 Million
Delta: 120.389 Million

http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/press_releases/bts012_14

 

[redflyer65]

I missed that Howard, you are correct sir.

So does that mean DL is the biggest carpet seller in ATL?

 

[HowardBorden]

I missed that Howard, you are correct sir.

So does that mean DL is the biggest carpet seller in ATL?

They are the biggest seller of something in Atlanta and quite frankly worldwide. Their profit margins are huge and I have no problem giving credit where credit is due.

The passenger counts are really pretty insignificant since profit is really the ultimate goal. I only commented because I found Dan Roman's comment about our "niche" market humorous. I have always viewed niche markets as small carve outs of the whole pie and I think our slice of that pie is larger than a niche.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Hate to break it to you Bill, but we almost fly as many people 'DOMESTICALLY' than Delta does combined.

2013 Passenger Enplaned (2013 annual):

Delta: 120.3 Million
SW: 115.3 Million

We carry almost 20% more domestic passengers than Delta, or close to what a combined American and United operation would do.

A little bigger than you carpet salesman comment there Bill, but I know you didn't even look into it before posting...again.

Edit: I guess those numbers are so close because they don't have all your 'regional partners'. Not sure if that is something to be proud of, or just embarrassed about.

Big difference carrying a 777 New York-TLV than 12 hops between Hobby and Tulsa. You can almost quadruple the pax count right there.

And then the question of metrics......the way you Daisy chain people through five cities to go transcon and by your own account in annual reports, you count each through person at every departure. So for every Wal-mart Flipflop crowd you board for 99 bucks.....you may even count em 5-7 times. (look it up)

Red....be proud of your mighty Domestic Lift.....you are singlehandledly saving US aviation!!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

I missed that Howard, you are correct sir.

So does that mean DL is the biggest carpet seller in ATL?

I forgot....you fly to Aruba now....Fly a heavy -800, and have Vnav.

you are the same airline....my bad

 

[Scoot 11]

Fortunately, Maru, you wannabe-scab has-been, nobody here cares about your opinion on anything, especially unions.

Jes' sayin'.

Bubba

I could care less about your internal food fight.
That being said, it just shows you the idiocy of some junior captain who bought his job. You obviously haven't been around this industry much to know the real definition of the word scab, you AHOLE!

 

[say again]

-My airline is better.
-No, mine is.
-No, mine is. Yours stinks.


Blah, blah, blah. They both suck. There, end of debate

 

[SWA Bubba]

I could care less about your internal food fight.
That being said, it just shows you the idiocy of some junior captain who bought his job. You obviously haven't been around this industry much to know the real definition of the word scab, you AHOLE!

Dear no-sh1t-actually-paid-out-his-own-money-during-his-Delta-traing, PFT dumbass,*

I know exactly what the "real definition" of the word "scab" means (in relation to unions). A scab is someone who performs legally struck work. Period. And since reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits, I'll explain again: I called Maru a "wannabe-scab," not a scab. He is a wannabe-scab, as he posted that he "would gladly cross a United picket line." If he actually had done it, then he would be a "scab." Since he only stated his willingness to do so, he's only a "wannabe-scab." Clear enough? Get it yet?

If you still don't get it, you might want to check with an actual union official, since you are obviously so ignorant on the workings of airlines and unions. They could probably explain it to you, hopefully in even smaller words.

And speaking of your lack of comprehension and not knowing what airline terms actually mean, you might check with the same union official on the meaning of "PFT," since you clearly don't know jack-all-sh1t about that either. The ironic part is, that YOU are much closer to being PFT then any Southwest guy.

You obviously haven't been around this industry much to know the real definition of the word PFT, you AHOLE!

^^ There, fixed that for you. You're welcome!

Bubba

* uh, that's you, Scoot, who actually paid his own money, out-of-pocket, as part of your new-hire training with Delta ... and that was only after buying one less rating than I did to qualify for your company's hiring minimums.

 

[Scoot 11]

Dear, I want to know what it's like to be a real man:

I know exactly what the "real definition" of the word "scab" means because I was one at my previous job! Period. And since reading comprehension wasn't required for me to buy my job, I'll explain again: I called Maru a "wannabe-scab," not a scab. He is a wannabe-scab, as he didn't have to pay for training like I did." If he actually had done it, then only a "wannabe-scab." Clear enough? Get it yet?

And speaking of your lack of comprehension and not knowing what airline terms actually mean, you might check with the same union official on the meaning of "PFT," since I had to buy my job at southwest since I couldn't get hired at a real airline because I crossed a picket line, have no college education, and have a DUI on my record. You see, I am a real Southwest guy.


Bubba

Since you're in the business of fixing posts, I fixed yours for you, chicken sh1t!:bomb:

 

[SWA Bubba]

Since you're in the business of fixing posts, I fixed yours for you, chicken sh1t!:bomb:

Wow. Good comeback, Potsie.

All you need do now is mention LBB or ice cream sundaes instead of actually addressing what was said, and your transition to General Lee, Jr. will be complete.

Bubba

 

[Flying the Line]

This message board if officially dead.

 

[redflyer65]

Big difference carrying a 777 New York-TLV than 12 hops between Hobby and Tulsa. You can almost quadruple the pax count right there.

And then the question of metrics......the way you Daisy chain people through five cities to go transcon and by your own account in annual reports, you count each through person at every departure. So for every Wal-mart Flipflop crowd you board for 99 bucks.....you may even count em 5-7 times. (look it up)

Red....be proud of your mighty Domestic Lift.....you are singlehandledly saving US aviation!!

Bill, your losing it buddy. You sound like Genny.

The raw numbers are what they are. You are obviously shocked we carry the same amount of passengers that Delta does....domestically and internationally. I understand that's embarrassing to your argument. You should have checked the numbers first. But.......you didn't.

Triple 7? Really? That's your argument? Who cares, I don't. You're right about the passenger count, and here's how it looks......

Here's your problem. Our -800's seat 175. Your 777 seats 291. That's barely a 100 passenger difference. So when your triple 7 flies 10hrs, we've flown the guppy two 5hr legs( 2 transcons) with a total passenger count of 350. Is the yield close the same? Probably.

A triple seven 15 hour flight? We've flown 525 passengers by the time you've touched down.

Rule number 1. You forgot we fly 3 thousand 5 hundred flights a day, everyday.

Rule number 2. You know passengers can't be counted twice. Did you do your homework this time? Doesn't look like it.

 

[outerlimits]

Operating word is Domestic.....

Thats like saying you are the largest carpet seller in Cleveland....it doesnt make people in the industry stop and kiss your feet out of respect.

Get over yourself Howard

I much prefer bare floors.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL. when you come over ,you need to bid PHX. The colonels out there will love you.

As much entertainment as annoying the colonels would be, I'm going to have to pass. Still not interested in the pay cut, but thanks.

 

[twepilot]

So Pudge, when's the last day? 2/18 is right around the corner and I'm sure you'll do the honorable thing and "bow out" before someone puts the time and effort into scheduling your training and hotel room..Won't you?

RV