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I'm just the messenger but when I asked how they plan to make 20% I wasn't given a firm answer. Granted this was in December so maybe they didn't know exactly 100% then how they planned to achieve that but the source is about as high as you can get and it's fairly common knowledge out on the line that these are the numbers.
 
I'm just the messenger but when I asked how they plan to make 20% I wasn't given a firm answer. Granted this was in December so maybe they didn't know exactly 100% then how they planned to achieve that but the source is about as high as you can get and it's fairly common knowledge out on the line that these are the numbers.

You are way out of your depth. You, like everyone else on the line, has no clue what is going on.
 
You are way out of your depth. You, like everyone else on the line, has no clue what is going on.

You're right. I guess you put me in my place. If you read my post coherently you'd know that I said I was the messenger only. You think I'm just making up this stuff up??? The conversation took place with others present. It's up to you to believe what he or she told us that evening.
 
I'm just the messenger but when I asked how they plan to make 20% I wasn't given a firm answers.

Maybe by adjusting your pay just as FO did with our pay and benefits. Spending 30% less on labor will make the bottom line look good.

That is worry that the FO pilots have as well as the Flex pilots. Lets hope it doesn't come to that but the signs are not positive.
 
jetwash: exactly right.
20% ROI would be achieved one of two ways-
overcharge the owners, or
you work more for less.

which one do you think?
 
Maybe by adjusting your pay just as FO did with our pay and benefits. Spending 30% less on labor will make the bottom line look good.

That is worry that the FO pilots have as well as the Flex pilots. Lets hope it doesn't come to that but the signs are not positive.

What signs?!?! I haven't seen any signs of good or bad?! Give me signs of what you have seen since the purchase of FJ that would lead to think we would get a paycut
 
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jetwash: exactly right.
20% ROI would be achieved one of two ways-
overcharge the owners, or
you work more for less.

which one do you think?

Or...when FO adopts the proven methods FJ has to make a profit, both store fronts will be money making machines!
 
True but at some point they all sat down agreed to a plan that they all saw fit that would get them their 20% return. We were making 15% for Bombardier.

Nobody in this business makes 15% ROI, except maybe the caterers. 7-8% would be great for a frac. If they were making 15% Bombardier would never have sold them, no matter how tight cashflow is.
 
Nobody in this business makes 15% ROI, except maybe the caterers. 7-8% would be great for a frac. If they were making 15% Bombardier would never have sold them, no matter how tight cashflow is.

You FO guys seem to know everything....
 
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You FO guys seem to know everything....

What they know best is how to stay mired in mediocrity. They can't get their head around the fact that flex has been successful for most of its existence and along with that success comes a culture they refuse to accept. Until out management gives us a reason not to work with them, we will do all we can to keep flex a continued success and that will be without the teamsters.

So you guys continue by spreading fear and propaganda to try and drag us down to your level.
 

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