Nov 1st NJA? whats up???

[av8trinabarrel]

What would constitute a kick down the river. I haven't heard if anything proposed or in the works.

Recall rights negotiated away with a new contract.

 

[JustPlaneTruth]

He's referring to the potential bargaining away of our recall rights and/or longevity in order to achieve pay raises for the active group all while we can't vote.

If that occurs, whatever "better contract" is in place is irrelevant for us.

You have no evidence to support that statement but thanks for playing. Never mind. This is FI so evidence is not required.

 

[JustPlaneTruth]

Recall rights negotiated away with a new contract.

Not gonna happen and you have no evidence of that.

 

[BORG]

You have no evidence to support that statement but thanks for playing. Never mind. This is FI so evidence is not required.

Hence the qualifier "potential". Thanks for playing...

 

[BORG]

Not gonna happen and you have no evidence of that.

"You have no evidence to support that statement but thanks for playing. Never mind. This is FI so evidence is not required."

Pot meet kettle...

 

[DC-4]

You have no evidence to support that statement but thanks for playing. Never mind. This is FI so evidence is not required.

Wrong I have 4 years of this union not representing us. You want the list

 

[JustPlaneTruth]

Wrong I have 4 years of this union not representing us. You want the list

I will gladly look at your list. Please provide it.

 

[JustPlaneTruth]

"You have no evidence to support that statement but thanks for playing. Never mind. This is FI so evidence is not required."

Pot meet kettle...

You don't know me and I don't know you so the reality is you do not know what information I have or where I got it.

 

[BORG]

You don't know me and I don't know you so the reality is you do not know what information I have or where I got it.

I think it's safe to say that there is precedent for a senior group selling out a junior group - especially when the junior guys and gals have no voice or vote.

It's hard to imagine you have ANY information that would ensure this won't happen to the furloughed NJA pilots - especially when I run into some of my active brothers that are unaware that NJA has furloughees on the street...

 

[JustPlaneTruth]

I think it's safe to say that there is precedent for a senior group selling out a junior group - especially when the junior guys and gals have no voice or vote.

It's hard to imagine you have ANY information that would ensure this won't happen to the furloughed NJA pilots - especially when I run into some of my active brothers that are unaware that NJA has furloughees on the street...

In order for the senior guys to sell out on the junior guys it would have to be presented to the pilot group to a vote which means the leadership would have to release the CBA to a vote. Not one of the current leadership is going to release any CBA to a vote (with an endorsement) that contains the creation of a second class group of active pilots (after recall).

The CBA being negotiated will take a number of years to finish and given the current under staffing level it is reasonable, given the current ops tempo and growth, that many if not all the pilots will be offered recall. Those that accept recall will get to vote.