United or American?

[beechjetdriver]

This isn't just an intellectual exercise.

A Skywest FO with zero PIC recently had job offers from both AA and United.

Which offer did he/she take?

 

[Furloughed80]

In the late 90s the best carrier to go to was UAL; what kind of career has a late 90s hire at UA had? In the late 80s it was US Air. What kind of career has a late 80s hire at US Air had versus a late 80s hire at CAL? CAL was probably most pilots' last option. It's impossible to predict how a 20 plus year airline career will go. That being said, I think your total career experience at either UAL, DAL, or AA will be remarkably similar.

 

[Pervis]

New hires at AA will in effect be the fifth group on the totem pole. AA, TWA, AW, and USAir seniority groups will mean a mess for years to come.

 

[MATHEWS]

Relax Pervis...they will all be gone soon enough. That's the point!

 

[labbats]

Which offer did he/she take?

She took United.

I would have chosen AA.

 

[pb4ufly]

American by birth; United by choice.

 

[K.V.]

From just the few responses on here, it seems most would favor AA over United, but don't offer a lot of insight as to why. I get the argument of long term speculation and CEO's, but as of right now it appears to me that the pay, benefits and all-in-all, total compensation at United is significantly better, especially for new hires. Does AA have a contract negotiation on the horizon that I'm unaware of?

 

[beechjetdriver]

From just the few responses on here, it seems most would favor AA over United, but don't offer a lot of insight as to why. I get the argument of long term speculation and CEO's, but as of right now it appears to me that the pay, benefits and all-in-all, total compensation at United is significantly better, especially for new hires. Does AA have a contract negotiation on the horizon that I'm unaware of?

Yes, they have large contract improvements in place after the merger closes and will begin negotiations for a new joint contract with US Airways as well. Pay rates and benefits are comparable to United after the merger closes.

 

[cbrown1]

From just the few responses on here, it seems most would favor AA over United, but don't offer a lot of insight as to why. I get the argument of long term speculation and CEO's, but as of right now it appears to me that the pay, benefits and all-in-all, total compensation at United is significantly better, especially for new hires. Does AA have a contract negotiation on the horizon that I'm unaware of?

Pay Goes into effect in a few weeks, the mou has pay matching or better than united and delta by 2015-16. The retirements are more than either delta or united. AA and US have hired less than 200 combined in the last 10 years, while united (cal) and delta have hired thousands. Plus American/US have more airplanes on order than all the us carriers combined.

Sure it can all go south but if AA goes down I'm betting so do delta and united at this point.

 

[Full of LUV]

This isn't just an intellectual exercise.

A Skywest FO with zero PIC recently had job offers from both AA and United.

Is she hot?

 

[Hpilot]

Delta.....oh wait that's not a choice. American!

 

[NDPILOT]

go to med school...was that an option?

 

[General Lee]

Delta.....oh wait that's not a choice. American!

For you, that was probably correct.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Quack]

AA and US have hired less than 200 combined in the last 10 years, while united (cal) and delta have hired thousands. .

Does anyone know how many US Air has hired in this latest round of hiring? Seems like they have hired a lot more than 200 within the last couple years and continue to hire, wondering if there is a more exact number. thanks

 

[airgator]

US hired around 300 this year, and don't forget America West hired every year from 1995-2008 except for '06.

 

[dugan jones]

Does anyone know how many US Air has hired in this latest round of hiring? Seems like they have hired a lot more than 200 within the last couple years and continue to hire, wondering if there is a more exact number. thanks

I was hired in 2007 and have about 500 below me with classes starting every couple weeks

 

[SIG600]

The AA/US FAs are already going at it with each other. Couple that with the US/AW/AA/TWA food fight that is sure to ensue, they are going to have some serious labor strife within the ranks for decades.

 

[RT8VA]

Here is the real problem with this question, you are asking people which they would choose but very few if any have worked at both. The view from the inside is always different and you will only get half the view from every poster because they really can only say what it is like to work at the airline they are employed with. If you end up having to make the choice pick the one you think is best at the time and hopefully it works in your favor. Seniority is every thing so most likely the first to offer you the job will be the one.

 

[ExJmbDrv]

If you sum the retirement numbers posted on APC and assume zero growth/shrinkage, then you hit 50% seniority at Delta one year ahead of American or United. However, I still think you take the first one that dials your number and then the easiest commute if two call at the same time.

 

[skywiz]

The AA/US FAs are already going at it with each other. Couple that with the US/AW/AA/TWA food fight that is sure to ensue, they are going to have some serious labor strife within the ranks for decades.

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