ExpressJet JCBA is complete

[XPOO]

I would bet if we vote yes on a concessionary contract the Skyw coat-tailers will get cuts as well. Then they will blame us.

Actually, the SkyWest pilots will probably have theirs all done before yours even goes to a vote. So much for your coat-tail riding theory. If anyone is riding coat-tails, its the unprofitable company leaching off the one with it's sh!t together.

 

[Butterbean]

Actually, the SkyWest pilots will probably have theirs all done before yours even goes to a vote. So much for your coat-tail riding theory. If anyone is riding coat-tails, its the unprofitable company leaching off the one with it's sh!t together.

FYI (SAPA UPDATE)



Pay Negotiations
[FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]I hope many of you had the chance to listen in to the earnings call or read the press releases because SkyWest Inc. just announced a very profitable quarter. Despite current challenges in the industry, SkyWest continues to show that it is possible to pay pilots at or near the top of the industry and still be profitable. Finding new ways to remain profitable, and winning new contracts is still a primary focus for SkyWest Airlines and SkyWest Inc. leadership. SAPA maintains that the employees at SkyWest contribute greatly to the success of this airline and we will continue to push for pilot pay and work rules that will keep us at the top of the industry. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Arial]The negotiating committee and SkyWest leadership met on October 29[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]th [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]for a full day of talks and a few follow up conversations have taken place to discuss the remaining issues. At this point, the negotiating committee does not have a deal they can recommend to the SAPA board but we are working to that end. Our direction from the board and our expectation is to secure a short term agreement with a few small improvements for pilots. The company is simply unwilling to offer huge raises. We have spent a lot of time talking about the effects of the new rest rules, pilot attrition and training, and securing new or renewed flying contracts. A couple of the final holding points are; the pay structure for the E175 and the [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]SkyWest Airlines Pilot Association [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]company wants to address an operational issue with cancelation reserve in relation to upcoming FAR 117 changes. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Arial]We have no timeline on when (or even if) this will be complete. Our negotiating process is such that the SAPA negotiating committee will first recommend a deal to the SAPA Board, then the Board will vote to send to the pilots for ratification. We will continue to work with the company until we have a deal that we are [/FONT][/FONT]confident [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]the pilots will support. [/FONT]
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[Freebrd]

Glad you can stop by XPO between checking eBay & Craigslist and occasionally generating that automatic dispatch release. Know what XPO? No one really gives a f€?k about SKYW pilots and their "agreement" (not a contract, a contract is enforceable). Why you continually appear on here bashing the XJT side of the house baffles me. Other than to get a rise, or lean over to the dispatcher next to you and say "hehe look what I just posted on FI". Or, perhaps you're management. There is a dispatcher forum on FI, but none for management weenies. "Looser"

 

[Freebrd]

At this point, the negotiating committee does not have a deal they can recommend to the SAPA board but we are working to that end.


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LMAO! Spoke too soon eh XPO? putz!

 

[Nevets]

Actually, the SkyWest pilots will probably have theirs all done before yours even goes to a vote. So much for your coat-tail riding theory. If anyone is riding coat-tails, its the unprofitable company leaching off the one with it's sh!t together.

The Skywest pilots have in writing that whatever ASA/XJT get in matching funds, healthcare, and scope, they get. That's the definition of riding coat tails. As for profits, that's management's job, not the pilots. Inc is the failure so far in that regard.

 

[centralpilot]

The Skywest pilots have in writing that whatever ASA/XJT get in matching funds, healthcare, and scope, they get. That's the definition of riding coat tails. As for profits, that's management's job, not the pilots. Inc is the failure so far in that regard.

Yep. The poor contracts rates are all concentrated at one of SkyWest, Inc's subsidiary airlines. Shocking.

 

[Nevets]

Yep. The poor contracts rates are all concentrated at one of SkyWest, Inc's subsidiary airlines. Shocking.

You are talking about the CPAs, right? Skywest Airlines are also required to be the 2nd lowest. Something doesn't add up.

 

[wrightbros]

You are talking about the CPAs, right? Skywest Airlines are also required to be the 2nd lowest. Something doesn't add up.

Damn right something doesn't add up! Funny how the MEC can listen to threats from management but they can't listen to a earnings report or read the agreements that we have with partners that even in the earning report say there are revenue increases! 6 of 9 need recalled now!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I and my fellow pilots are worth this and more. The company doesn't want to pay accordingly which is why so many are leaving for places that will.

PS. I fully expect Inc to Lorenzo our planes and flying to Skyw, and I expect Skyw pilots will be happy to take it.

Lesson #1- You get what you negotiate, worth has nothing to do with anything, look at NBA contracts, millions to play a game on TV.

Lesson #2- SKYW pilots for the most part don't want any more RJ flying than you do, remember we had BH long before you even knew who he was. Do what the lions share of us are doing, vote no, then vote with your feet. At this point even Air China is looking good, if they will DH me from the west coast, I am there.

 

[Nevets]

Damn right something doesn't add up! Funny how the MEC can listen to threats from management but they can't listen to a earnings report or read the agreements that we have with partners that even in the earning report say there are revenue increases! 6 of 9 need recalled now!

As for the revenue increases, I know that the UAL CPA has a yearly CPI adjustment up to a maximum of 3%. It probably a standard revenue adjustment for these CPAs.

Lesson #2- SKYW pilots for the most part don't want any more RJ flying than you do, remember we had BH long before you even knew who he was. Do what the lions share of us are doing, vote no, then vote with your feet. At this point even Air China is looking good, if they will DH me from the west coast, I am there.

Skywest pilots don't want anymore RJ flying? Will Skywest pilots vote with their feet when the aircraft are transferred? We will never be allowed to strike. If we vote no, this will be our strike since aircraft will be transferred.

 

[waterskier]

As for the revenue increases, I know that the UAL CPA has a yearly CPI adjustment up to a maximum of 3%. It probably a standard revenue adjustment for these CPAs.




Skywest pilots don't want anymore RJ flying? Will Skywest pilots vote with their feet when the aircraft are transferred? We will never be allowed to strike. If we vote no, this will be our strike since aircraft will be transferred.

Aircraft will be transferred no matter what, but guess we can count on you to vote yes... Have some pride man~

 

[Oakum_Boy]

7/10 of our -900's can be transferred if the TA is ratified. 10/10 will probably go if we shoot it down.

This TA is not worth anything but a "no" vote.

Unless you think three total -900s remaining in our fleet are worth a "yes".

 

[Nevets]

Aircraft will be transferred no matter what, but guess we can count on you to vote yes... Have some pride man~

I'm a no vote. That will be my "strike" vote. Aircraft will then be transferred to Skywest. If Skywest pilots don't want any more RJ flying, as PBR said, will they refuse to cross that line?

 

[SPDBRD747400]

7/10 of our -900's can be transferred if the TA is ratified. 10/10 will probably go if we shoot it down.

This TA is not worth anything but a "no" vote.

Unless you think three total -900s remaining in our fleet are worth a "yes".

I agree with a NO vote, but we have 28 -900's currently.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I agree with a NO vote, but we have 28 -900's currently.

Haha. Shows how much I know! Where did those come from?

Oh yeah, probably Comair.