ExpressJet JCBA is complete

[Freebrd]

But but BH said we'd we a 500 spaceship aero service! What happened, and where'd my Vac low go?

Voting NO

 

[SoberIrishman]

Why are you all so intent on deciding now? Read the damn thing first and then make your vote count!
When we know the details then and only then it will be our opportunity to democratically express a choice. This warmongering attitude of many of our brethren before the fact is senseless and a waste of time.
No pilot in their right senses should accept something which does not satisfy their aspirations of what is expected or desirable in this profession, however it is not fair to the rest of us to go into this with blinders on through to voting.
Once again, read the f#ng thing first.

 

[Freebrd]

Really don't have to read the damn thing first, I know what's coming. Back to your pub & pint!

 

[SoberIrishman]

Finished with the pint. Dealing with the steak right now.

 

[enuffalready]

If the min guarantee has changed to 65hours(or worse) on vacation low month I won't read another word, sentence , paragraph or page... Non starter... Absolutely fvxking no. They can give every flight to silver or Mesa or whogivesash!t inc.

 

[Freebrd]

you eatin' boiled potatoes with that thar steak?

 

[SoberIrishman]

Again, you may be correct, but heresay is not admissable in court. Read, then decide, be patient.

 

[Freebrd]

what's your side, sheperds pie, or is that an Irish desert?

Voting NO

 

[SoberIrishman]

If the min guarantee has changed to 65hours(or worse) on vacation low month I won't read another word, sentence , paragraph or page... Non starter... Absolutely fvxking no. They can give every flight to silver or Mesa or whogivesash!t inc.

Vacation? My work is a vacation away from the CHO (aka Chief Household Officer!) She who must be obeyed in other words!

 

[Freebrd]

CHO? Thought that was in VA.

 

[SoberIrishman]

Seriously folks. Just wait. Vote. The ball is in our court, especially with FTDT and new hire staffing. If you don't like it, then vote as you see fit.
We have time on our side. No rushing into this needed.

 

[Freebrd]

I am waiting to vote, waiting to vote NO! Seriously.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

We have time on our side. No rushing into this needed.

hear hear!

There are no pilots out there. Very very few. For once we have the ball in our court, and ALPO continues to sell us out.

 

[Freebrd]

they'll just raise it to 67, maybe even to 70

 

[SoberIrishman]

hear hear!

There are no pilots out there. Very very few. For once we have the ball in our court, and ALPO continues to sell us out.

Decide and vote only when the facts are known. The trouble is that people can't see when they are being duped, and fall into a carefully engineered trap. Look at what happened to Pinnacle, PSA, and the American people during the last presidential election. Be informed first, consider your personal situation, then make your vote count.
We are, and will remain for now, in control.
SKYW is nowhere near bankruptcy. They will threaten transfer of flying, and other tactics, but planes don't fly without pilots, at least no time soon.

 

[SoberIrishman]

they'll just raise it to 67, maybe even to 70

Hope I get my IPad by then, or at least a walker.

 

[SoberIrishman]

And I want dayglo tennis balls on it.

 

[CFIT]

I bid vaca low but still do 75 hours on a vaca month turning seven days into four weeks with carry over vaca. But I will still vote no.

We weren't allowed to strike in 07 but the point still got across.

There is not enough staffing in the industry to cover our flying and besides, the fleet is going to have to shrink due to all the pilots that will be leaving. The company is going to get its wish of transferring airplanes, but for reasons other than leverage against labor.

PS, I committed to voting no the moment we went into negotiations and still do.

Just to bring this up, the training department at SkyWest airlines is running at about max. With bringing up the E175, there is little room to bring in anything more than keeping up with attrition.

Stay strong boys, vote no.

There's a reason why management is trying to get your contract and new negotiations done here as well right now.

 

[SoberIrishman]

Exactly.

 

[wrightbros]

"Be informed first, consider your personal situation, then make your vote count."

That is the problem, most guys will vote "yes" cause they will be scared by ALPA and the CO! I'm an FO and have 2 kids and don't really want to lose my job, but I'm smart enough to know that the Co is full of shxt if they say that they need concessions. Look at the SKYW financials...we would be complete idiots to take any thing less than we alreadly have, even with threats! Who the hell will fly the planes? They can't fill classes...come on ALPA have some balls!