ExpressJet JCBA is complete

[Freebrd]

Ok the MEC knows what's in the TA, it's Tue, so why is it taking so long to put out the highlights?

 

[rockit85]

There are no highlights when it's a concessionary contract.

 

[centralpilot]

Ok the MEC knows what's in the TA, it's Tue, so why is it taking so long to put out the highlights?

They won't put it out unless the MEC votes in favor of sending it to the pilots for ratification. They just started briefing yesterday. Would you prefer that they rush through that decision? I for one would like them to read the language very carefully before they vote. There can be a big difference between bullet point concepts and actual enforceable language.

 

[Freebrd]

Look, all along the MEC & NC keep each other briefed. The MEC KNOWS what is in there. I agree they need to read it over and check for enforceable language as you say. Maybe it's the ALPA attorney who is reading it over. If so, hope he/she doesn't give the MEC the same old ALPA crap, "this is the best you're going to get". Sure, we get to vote but most pilots don't read it for one reason or another, mostly laziness. We'll see, hopefully soon.

 

[SiuDude]

The MECs have decided to present the TA to the pilots . Roadshows begin in early December.

 

[Freebrd]

As Shelby (from that TV show) would say, "here we go"! :uzi:

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I happen to have video from the last MEC roadshow. It really did not sway many pilots in favor of voting yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piW6q2yKhfY

 

[Mickey Mouse]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_and_pony_show

 

[Freebrd]

You got it Mickey! Exactly what is going to happen I'm afraid! :crying:

 

[Cpt Oveur]

I just hope the briefing didn't go along the lines of "We have to pass it to find out what's in it"

 

[Data]

I just hope the briefing didn't go along the lines of "We have to pass it to find out what's in it"

If that's the case, it'll pass easy.

 

[Skippy]

Whatevs. Whatever goes to the pilot group... And the mecs will send it to the pilot group. It will pass... Who r we kidding? The only thing a skywest pilot votes no on is a union.
Im thinking express will fall for the whipsaw...
I just wish, for once, the pilot group says, "i triple dog dare you."

 

[JustaNumber]

No vote conditions from another thread.

here is what I expect, anything less is a "NO VOTE".

-FULL RESTORATION OF FRAGMENTAION POLICY (because SKYW pilots aren't going to support us.)
-5 hour min day.
-trip/duty rig based on actual or scheduled, whichever is higher.
-1 week vacation year 1, 2 year two, 3 year 5, 4 year 10(like the rest of the US)
-12 days off min every month for all pilots.
-alternate deadhead without approval (we're grown ups)
-eliminate occurrences (we're not hoodlums)
-eliminate duty in (we're grown ups)
-Use of sick bank for PTO
-no call for release on reserve (we're grown ups)
-simple do-fly/don't fly list for reserves
-immediate notification and release or reassignment for cancellations
-evenly split pairing length between 1,2,3 and 4 days
-75 hours min every month, no moving window
-all days off hard
-no floating days off on reserve
-single day off requires additional day off in same month for reserves
-hotel required in domicile when overnight cancellation
-FULL RESTORATION OF FRAGMENTATION POLICY (because ALPA sold us out when they amended it in the TPA)
-specific transparent formula for reserve coverage, not whim of Skd supv.
And of course, No loose language!
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You forgot "--No involutary TDY." If there's a need to temporarily rebalance bases, put a bid out to the line pilots. Don't screw all the reserves with 5 day trips that just aren't called 5 day trips. For a while they were even TDYing multiple ATL guys to DTW and simultaneously TDYing DTW guys to ATL, just for scheduling's convenience.

The abuse of that one makes it a deal-breaker for me. But I'd give it a 0.0001% chance anyone on the negotiating committee even gave 2 seconds of thought to that one. Overall not optimistic.

 

[wms]

Whatevs. Whatever goes to the pilot group... And the mecs will send it to the pilot group. It will pass... Who r we kidding? The only thing a skywest pilot votes no on is a union.
Im thinking express will fall for the whipsaw...
I just wish, for once, the pilot group says, "i triple dog dare you."

I would bet if we vote yes on a concessionary contract the Skyw coat-tailers will get cuts as well. Then they will blame us.

 

[wms]

You forgot "--No involutary TDY." If there's a need to temporarily rebalance bases, put a bid out to the line pilots. Don't screw all the reserves with 5 day trips that just aren't called 5 day trips. For a while they were even TDYing multiple ATL guys to DTW and simultaneously TDYing DTW guys to ATL, just for scheduling's convenience.

The abuse of that one makes it a deal-breaker for me. But I'd give it a 0.0001% chance anyone on the negotiating committee even gave 2 seconds of thought to that one. Overall not optimistic.

That wasn't for Skd convenience, it was for harassment and incompetence. Added to my conditions. Thanks