When can AirTran dump ALPA?

[PCL_128]

People are mourning and you're posting this kind of crap? I've reported your posts to the moderators. Hopefully this forum still has some who pay attention.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

Deeply saddened to read about this tragic loss. My prayers to Rich's wife and family. I've been told that SWAPA CISM is reaching out to his family to give them any assistance they need during difficult time. I was really looking forward to flying with Rich when he transitioned next month. God's speed.

 

[Capn Butthead]

May god bless him and his family. What a horrible and sad time for his family

As someone pointed out earlier it's so sad that it happens in our profession. I personally have lost 2 fellow airline friends to suicide. It is devastating. And the FAA has such horrible rules regarding depression, antidepressants and counseling. Unfortunately we all live looking over our shoulders worrying if we will lose our medicals. We need better rules and more compassion from the FAA concerning this. It truly makes me sad that we lost another fellow pilot. God bless to his family

 

[-9Capt]

Well said capn b.head

 

[Lear70]

All of you throwing stones at each other and the guy just passed away less than 24 hours ago.

How about everyone just lay off for a while and just let people pass their condolences who wish to.

 

[scoreboardII]

Ditto, rest in peace.

 

[madjack]

"SWA's heavy handedness"

Not Heavy Handedness, just corporate responsibility, nice try at deflection...I would expect ALPA would be interested also...

 

[vixin]

This is what you guy are now arguing about? Really? I may have to agree with PCL for once. Just step away from the key board if this is the crap you need to fight over.

 

[MCDU]

Sad, just very sad. My condolences to all the people that knew him.

M

 

[carl p]

I am not on this forum much, however this comment is way out of line and I am embarrassed to say you are one of my fellow pilots on the TRAN side. Heck maybe we have even flown together. That being said what Rich did on the merger committee and him killing himself for whatever may be the reason has no bearing on you being pissed off about your spot on the SLI. He was a human being, and for whatever reason killed himself-as far as I am concerned it was between him and God.

Rich was a good person, he was very passionate about the integration and felt in his heart that he did the right thing for the group, weather you agree or not. I stood next to him in the crew room a few months back and guys were coming up to him threatening him, wtf, he was just one of 4 guys on the committee, maybe the most vocal, but still just one of 4!! We all know MGMT had there hands in the cookie jar long ago---swapa and alpo were just pawns in this fight.

FWIW...just my opinion

Fair winds my friend......God Bless.

Great post. I don't claim to know why he chose this path but I can only imagine the crap he went through over the last couple years. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, no matter which crowd you support in this MC vs MEC debacle.

R.I.P RB

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Great post. I don't claim to know why he chose this path but I can only imagine the crap he went through over the last couple years. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, no matter which crowd you support in this MC vs MEC debacle.

R.I.P RB

We've all gone through crap over the last three years. To reduce this person's situation to this does a huge disservice. While I vehemently disagreed, I'd like to give him more credit than this. We'll never know the rationale, but to speculate does a disservice to the deceased and their family.

I've personally held my family closer today and can only hope that none of the rest of us succumb to this disparity, no matter the cause.

 

[texman]

God bless you my fellow pilot. I will pray for you and your family. God speed my friend.

 

[jetvison]

I worked with Rich closely for years. He was my Captain on many occasions. We worked together, flew together, laughed, argued, agreeded on many things and disagreed on a few. I read his emails, slung his gear, and got several free meals on overnights. He was funloving, always had a bright smile and a passion for what he believed in. He had a deep love for Airtran, its pilots, and their welfare. Above all that, he loved his wonderful wife. This is how I knew him, and will honor and remember him. I loved him, he is my Airtran brother.
Matt Helms.

 

[intooclose]

I flew with him several months back....we talked about his trip to Africa and football. I saw many pictures of his vacation with Stacey and told him how the Falcons were going to the Super Bowl. We didn't talk about work, SLI, or the union on purpose. I hope he was at peace during our times together. You NEVER know what is going on in someones life. The Bible teaches two very important lessons. To love God with all your heart and to love you neighbor. This I will do more diligently.

"For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: Love your neighbor as yourself." Galatians 5:14

Tail winds and fair weather my brother....God speed.

 

[Bake]

If only we all stopped long enough to realize what we do to each other? I'm as guilty as anybody else. No seniority list, seat in an airplane or hourly wage is worth 1 life. I wish I could take back some things I have posted, I wish the words of peace I have spoke could be more fruitful. I have flown with many AT folks who have transitioned over and I must say they have all been wonderful people. Whatever it takes to take the stress away from both sides we should try to do. Let's not lose another person to this foolish game. I'm deeply saddened by this and I didn't even know him. God Bless all of you who did and may you have some peace.

 

[SWA717]

If only we all stopped long enough to realize what we do to each other? I'm as guilty as anybody else. No seniority list, seat in an airplane or hourly wage is worth 1 life. I wish I could take back some things I have posted, I wish the words of peace I have spoke could be more fruitful. I have flown with many AT folks who have transitioned over and I must say they have all been wonderful people. Whatever it takes to take the stress away from both sides we should try to do. Let's not lose another person to this foolish game. I'm deeply saddened by this and I didn't even know him. God Bless all of you who did and may you have some peace.

+1. Well said my friend.

 

[Ty Webb]

Agree 100% and very well put. I wish it didn't take something so terrible to put things in perspective. Would that things were different.

 

[SWA/FO]

Lots of mean stuff said to that dude. Some real soul searching today....

 

[Capn Butthead]

I think that's the problem with social media. Things can be written and said on such a harsh or direct manner because there is no human or emotional reaction that is tangible. You can't see what is being said having an impact on a person. I've tried to be somewhat civil because of that...now I have had some spirited debates with friends over beers and sometimes they were intense...but having a face to face conversation keeps it civil because you can see the impact of your thoughts in person.

 

[Tripower455]

If only we all stopped long enough to realize what we do to each other? I'm as guilty as anybody else. No seniority list, seat in an airplane or hourly wage is worth 1 life. I wish I could take back some things I have posted, I wish the words of peace I have spoke could be more fruitful. I have flown with many AT folks who have transitioned over and I must say they have all been wonderful people. Whatever it takes to take the stress away from both sides we should try to do. Let's not lose another person to this foolish game. I'm deeply saddened by this and I didn't even know him. God Bless all of you who did and may you have some peace.

Amen Bake!

RIP Rich.