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The Dude Abides said:
Are they the same contracts that Phildo and Bull Schitz blamed for the company's demise (didn't Captain Schitz build those contract? Wonder how the Chinese food in China is)? The question remains. What's to buy? You idiots that think a dercert is going to save the company and jobs need to have your f'ing heads examined (don't forget to report your insanity to your AME). Harry and Sally couldn't find their own zippers if they had to.
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I hear Harry left the company and Sally is in with Phill up to his eyeballs. I wonder what Phil has promised him in exchange for his efforts? I also wonder how Sally can sleep at night. Avation is a small world and pilots have long memories. He will be remembered for ever as a tractor to his fellow pilots.
 
Aeronca123 said:
Blame S.O. He i s the reason for the demise of CitationAir....Not the Union, but greed...40 million in the hole..
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Don't forget pure and unadulterated Wall St. arrogance! He and his spittle licking toadies treated CitationAir as their personal piggy bank until finally being shown the door by their Textron overlords. Problem is the holes below the waterline were so massive by then, the powers that be seem to have lost interest in patching them properly.

The toadies in the meantime seem to have crawled ashore in the land of Pfizer.
 
FRACTRASH said:
My understanding, we have 4 potential purchasers. two of which would be better for the existing employees. the other two would result in just about everyone hitting the street. Employees will have to reinterview for their positions. Since we would be fired and rehired, union would be a non issue. if the above doesn't occur, we have about 18 miserable months left, so keep looking.
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Any further development with the potential purchasers?
 
Praetorian said:
I hear Harry left the company and Sally is in with Phill up to his eyeballs. I wonder what Phil has promised him in exchange for his efforts? I also wonder how Sally can sleep at night. Avation is a small world and pilots have long memories. He will be remembered for ever as a tractor to his fellow pilots.
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Well, it's been said that Sal has his head so far up Phildo's ass that he can see Bubba up there . . . somewhere around Phildo's lungs from what I understand.
 
Smooth Cruz said:
Decertify, is that the latest?
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Yes. The Moronic Duo have swung in on their vines like the apes that they are and think that decertifying is the only way that the company can be saved. In fact, they said that the survival of the company is in the pilots hands. Anyone else hearing a cuckoo clock?

Go ahead, decertify. Let's see how Sal (we have to come up with a clever name for him) fares if he's successful and the company is bought or merges with another company. How big of a stapler would he need to staple his fat ass to the bottom?
 
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Spirit has hired pilots from CS recently. Just another option if you can get past the lowish first year pay. Several new bases opening up. I don't work for Spirit but I was told about the CS newhires.

Never hurts to consider your options and Spirit is expanding....
 
The Dude Abides said:
Unfortunately, you're right. The good news, though, is that Sally Bag of Bull**** and his ilk will be playing the CA fight song until the very end.
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With Sal "I swallow" Larda$$ leading Jerry's Kids towards Phildo's crotch...

It's hard to believe pilots who are, if their lucky going to be bought by someone else, really considering abandoning every hard earned legal right they can bring to bear in that situation for a cocktail of vague and unsubstantiated promises and threats. (Cue up the stripper music at Badda Bings because it's based on the same concept. Horny folks getting hornier with no relief possible while being fleeced financially for the privilege.)

Why not send in your cards to undo every protection we have already achieved; a pilot's life is full of regrets, what ifs, and missed opportunities...we're used to loosing by now and at least it's another opportunity to continue to sit by passively while blaming others for the crushing blow sure to follow.

It's truly mind blowing how stupid some pilots really are. Going down on flaccid, geriatric lawyers may be a new high for Sal and a few others, but it's hard to fathom what the motivations are for everyone else? Hopefully, at the very least, Phildo is promising official CA rubber knee pads for everyone with the slogan "Where you belong" emblazoned on it...and a slightly used yellow tie to wipe your chins with.

I hear, the pads will be part of the uniform, instead of epaulets and hats, to project the proper professional image of a CA pilot while on the road. :eek:
 
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Latest I heard from one of my buds at CA is this Sally character is hooked up with the Right to Work union-busting organization, which is funded by wallmart and all the other usual suspects. I hear he and his goombas did a little conference call the other day (which was poorly attended) where they encouraged the pilots to grab both ankles and trust in the benevolence of an, as yet to be named, future management team, who is sure to buy CA as long as the pilots agree to cast off the bad old Teamsters and who has promised to be nice. They swear!:laugh::laugh:
 
Obama likes the Teamsters they help him with elections, their for I don't like the Teamsters. Too Liberal for my taste.
 
Praetorian said:
Latest I heard from one of my buds at CA is this Sally character is hooked up with the Right to Work union-busting organization, which is funded by wallmart and all the other usual suspects. I hear he and his goombas did a little conference call the other day (which was poorly attended) where they encouraged the pilots to grab both ankles and trust in the benevolence of an, as yet to be named, future management team, who is sure to buy CA as long as the pilots agree to cast off the bad old Teamsters and who has promised to be nice. They swear!:laugh::laugh:
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Been busy playing golf and other useful activities...so I may have missed something, but why is there a continuing discussion of unions at CitationAir?

I doubt they would be conducting "union busting" activities when they are trying to get out of the business and have more important things to do. Very doubtful that Textron would allow this type of activity for an immaterial part of their business and the fact they have unions all over the place.

Would your friend just be pulling your chain?
 
gret said:
Been busy playing golf and other useful activities...so I may have missed something, but why is there a continuing discussion of unions at CitationAir?

I doubt they would be conducting "union busting" activities when they are trying to get out of the business and have more important things to do. Very doubtful that Textron would allow this type of activity for an immaterial part of their business and the fact they have unions all over the place.

Would your friend just be pulling your chain?
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Apparently the union busting is coming from Sally. He has reportedly sent out a letter where he claims the 'right to work' folks as his sponsor. Not sure if Sally knows just who he gotten himself mixed up with. I hope the CA pilots do.
 
Praetorian said:
Apparently the union busting is coming from Sally. He has reportedly sent out a letter where he claims the 'right to work' folks as his sponsor. Not sure if Sally knows just who he gotten himself mixed up with. I hope the CA pilots do.
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Can you obtain the letter and post it so we have the facts?
 
I would want a Union between my pilot group and a new management team. A union would also be a helpful in negotiations of two senority list. Or you could just hope for the best.
 
Praetorian said:
Do you think, even for a minute, I'd give this traitor to all pilots a wider audience by doing that?
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Why not?...documentation supporting comments usually never hurt anyone...and is good for the soul. Most of us are big boys, not biased, and can formulate reasonable opinions if the facts are presented.

Not sure how it helps the "traitor" if we have people posting and telling us what it says.

Inquiring minds, seeking clarity, want to know...that's all.
 
gret said:
Why not?...documentation supporting comments usually never hurt anyone...and is good for the soul. Most of us are big boys, not biased, and can formulate reasonable opinions if the facts are presented.

Not sure how it helps the "traitor" if we have people posting and telling us what it says.

Inquiring minds, seeking clarity, want to know...that's all.
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He doesn't need to post the bull******************** letter. It's true. Don't buy it if you don't want to ... irrelevant, really. But SBOB did in fact claim that RTW is involved and counseling him. A good thing, too, because nothing like a-holes with literally no vested interest sticking their fat ********************ing noses where they don't belong.
 
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gret said:
Would your friend just be pulling your chain?
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With the exception of the word "friend" an excellent question. SBOB is known to bloviate to levels Bill O'Reilly would be proud. Much ado about nothing? He says he has the cards, but I highly doubt it.
 
gret said:
Why not?...documentation supporting comments usually never hurt anyone...and is good for the soul. Most of us are big boys, not biased, and can formulate reasonable opinions if the facts are presented.

Not sure how it helps the "traitor" if we have people posting and telling us what it says.

Inquiring minds, seeking clarity, want to know...that's all.
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That was a nice try. I'll give you that much.
 

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