The Costa Citationair

[Sparse]

Parking 18 planes this year. No layoffs expected due to people jumping ship. 8 and 6 schedule will be a reality so they say. Not good here. My bet is our doors will be closed at the end of the year.

"Net Jets is not making money and Flight Options will be out of business in 6 months"

"Cessna loves what we are doing"

Steve O'neil, CEO Citationshares, May 2005.

 

[OHGOON]

Parking 18 planes this year. No layoffs expected due to people jumping ship. 8 and 6 schedule will be a reality so they say. Not good here. My bet is our doors will be closed at the end of the year.

Where are you getting this from?

 

[tdwnds1]

How many pilots are still there?

 

[bailout]

Where are you getting this from?

straight from P.M. himself... Call him yourself. He is a straight shooter. He will tell you the same thing.

How many pilots are still there?

@223 ish...

They aren't shutting down. The original plan announced a year ago was 140 pilots at the end of this year. That is still holding true. If things were to get turned around, then that number will go up. As far as attrition, the number of people leaving will also slow down as the list gets closer to the 140 range.

 

[The Dude Abides]

"Straight Shooter" indeed:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/18/nyregion/critics-attack-actions-of-harrison-supervisor.html

 

[The Dude Abides]

Well rigger,

having trouble with reality? Care to specify why CitationAir is screwed?

Ohgoon, Captain Rigger will NEVER specify! That's what makes her so fun. Ain't never had a rational argument, never will.

 

[The Dude Abides]

That's what I thought. All hot air and no substance when legitimately confronted. :erm:

Or. . . big smoke but no fire.

 

[The Dude Abides]

"Net Jets is not making money and Flight Options will be out of business in 6 months"

"Cessna loves what we are doing"

Steve O'neil, CEO Citationshares, May 2005.

Don't lose any sleep, Sparse. The **************************************** like SO & Bull Schitz that got us into this mess are doing just fine!

 

[bailout]

"Straight Shooter" indeed:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/18/nyregion/critics-attack-actions-of-harrison-supervisor.html

exactly my point...

 

[WheresRocky]

Rumor has it this crew was forced to work 8 days strate with 6 days off.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/14/carnival-ship-dead-in-the-water-after-tow-line-snaps/

 

[C680]

Rumor has it this crew was forced to work 8 days strate with 6 days off.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/14/carnival-ship-dead-in-the-water-after-tow-line-snaps/

Yuck. Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "poop deck."

 

[Smooth Cruz]

No longer a rumor, 8 & 6 with no pay increase for the extra 26 days worked per year.

 

[Sparse]

Not only are we going to lay you off, we are going to make you work more until we do.

 

[tdwnds1]

Way of the world these days...work more and get less.

 

[The Dude Abides]

Thanks, Uncle Phildo!!

 

[bailout]

No longer a rumor, 8 & 6 with no pay increase for the extra 26 days worked per year.

Pay raise? Ha! 16-20% pay CUTS are coming soon. Don't believe me? Call him he will tell you. It is nothing official as of yet, but it will probably take effect by April. Cessna wants to bring us inline with average pay for charter operators since we are not fractional anymore.

 

[rigger]

Well I for one am glad the Union stopped this from Happening.......ooooops they missed that one, Ah Heck I like working more days.....I wont stress day 7 any more!!!! That is representation!!!

Glad they are doing it for me....I could never have worked out working more days for no more money......in fact I bet I would never ever be able to negotiate a pay decrease and more days worked!!!!

Money well spent!

 

[dime line]

Well I for one am glad the Union stopped this from Happening.......ooooops they missed that one, Ah Heck I like working more days.....I wont stress day 7 any more!!!! That is representation!!!

Glad they are doing it for me....I could never have worked out working more days for no more money......in fact I bet I would never ever be able to negotiate a pay decrease and more days worked!!!!

Money well spent!

I forgot, you dont have a contract. Quit your complaining

 

[The Dude Abides]

Well I for one am glad the Union stopped this from Happening.......ooooops they missed that one, Ah Heck I like working more days.....I wont stress day 7 any more!!!! That is representation!!!

Glad they are doing it for me....I could never have worked out working more days for no more money......in fact I bet I would never ever be able to negotiate a pay decrease and more days worked!!!!

Money well spent!

You're insight and, obviously, knowledge of how the bargaining process really works is both refreshing and thought provoking. Thank your for your post.

 

[rigger]

You're insight and, obviously, knowledge of how the bargaining process really works is both refreshing and thought provoking. Thank your for your post.

You are welcome!!!!! Process works just about the way I figured it would......LOL