The Costa Citationair

[Praetorian]

When Lenin tells you socialized medicine is the keystone to the Socialist State ... I don't know what else to tell you bro?

He has you on the ropes, so you trot out Lenin? Wasn't he actually a communist?

 

[gret]

When Lenin tells you socialized medicine is the keystone to the Socialist State ... I don't know what else to tell you bro?

Outstanding!!!! You deserve a gold star, at least!

Failing to accept the answers given to one' question is childish.

 

[gret]

He has you on the ropes, so you trot out Lenin? Wasn't he actually a communist?

"What is the difference between socialism and communism?

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism."

"Socialism and communism are ideological doctrines that have many similarities as well as many differences. One point that is frequently raised to distinguish socialism from communism is that socialism generally refers to an economic system, and communism generally refers to both an economic system and a political system. The means of production are publicly owned in both systems, but the ways that money and resources are distributed are different. In socialism, each person is allotted resources according to his or her input, or amount of work, and in communism, each person is allotted resources according to his or her needs. Many people consider communism to be a "higher" or more extreme form of socialism."

Good grief...we're approaching communism....

 

[Praetorian]

"What is the difference between socialism and communism?

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism."

"Socialism and communism are ideological doctrines that have many similarities as well as many differences. One point that is frequently raised to distinguish socialism from communism is that socialism generally refers to an economic system, and communism generally refers to both an economic system and a political system. The means of production are publicly owned in both systems, but the ways that money and resources are distributed are different. In socialism, each person is allotted resources according to his or her input, or amount of work, and in communism, each person is allotted resources according to his or her needs. Many people consider communism to be a "higher" or more extreme form of socialism."

Good grief...we're approaching communism....

Yea because under our current system, 'each person is allotted resources according to his or her input, or amount of work'. Right?

I'll bet that old money family I picked up in Aspen, who was coming off a two week ski vacation, on their way to puerto vallarta really works their pampered little asses off.

This country is now a plutocracy. About as far from socialism or communism as you can get.

 

[gunfyter]

How to Identify Socialism:

"... See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.

Then abolish this law without delay, for it is not only an evil itself, but also it is a fertile source for further evils because it invites reprisals. If such a law — which may be an isolated case — is not abolished immediately, it will spread, multiply, and develop into a system...."

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G020

Obama Care takes property from people who it belongs to and gives to others who it does not belong to. That's not what happens with Defense or Road building etc..

 

[OHGOON]

Outstanding!!!! You deserve a gold star, at least!

Failing to accept the answers given to one' question is childish.

By your logic then: all the people who failed to accept the answers the Khmer Rouge Reeducation Camps provided were all childish then?

Let me give you another example of "childishness":

Mindlessly clapping for someone or something just because many others are doing it without actually knowing why or what they are clapping for.

Now if you really are that desperate for a gold star I can probably get one for you from my son who in Kindergarten has already figured out that just because it's shiny it's still just paper and unlike many here, he has no problem sharing some of his wealth.

 

[OHGOON]

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G020

Obama Care takes property from people who it belongs to and gives to others who it does not belong to. That's not what happens with Defense or Road building etc..

It actually does happen just like that when it comes to Defense and Road building. We take from you and me and give it to the Military Industrial Complex and or Paving companies who then proceed to give it to its management and to a lesser degree the share holders of said companies. I marvel at how you keep ignoring this basic fact and keep insisting that Healthcare spending is somehow different. It's not, and will not be different no matter how many old and tired Libertarians you trot out. Maybe if you spent your time keeping up with current events around the world a bit more rather than reading early 19th century French Revolution era propaganda, you might be less freaked out about the state of your world.

If you don't you, might end up believing we are "approaching communism", like your hilariously hysterical buddy gret.

Relax, no one in power in the US is a socialist or communist, we are today more than ever a solid Plutocracy, totally controlled by corporations. In other words the free market. Free for the rich, not so much for the other 99%. No worries though, as long as they are willing to allow a few scraps to fall off their tray tables once in a while (tinkle down??), you and your family will continue to be able to scrape by. If that doesn't offend your dignity you are free to carry on sycophantically supporting your self perceived betters.

BTW: Quoting Lenin? Really?? I would think you can't trust those Pinko Commies in anything they say... What's next, quotations from Mein Kampf?

 

[OHGOON]

I think Dick Cheney and David Lesar would disagree with that. They're millionaires many times over thanks to military spending.

Nah, they would just tell you they have earned it and there will always be enough lackeys around to swallow that.

BTW Look up the Fortune 400 and what they took home last year in just income. Divided into an hourly rate it comes out to well North of $90,000.00 an hour on average.

Keep that in mind next time you hear anyone cry poverty and "rising labor costs" They somehow never mention rising Greed Costs. I wonder why? :erm:

 

[gret]

...OK and your point is?

When you don't have a logical and intelligent position...the answer is to throw more on the wall and see if it sticks...

You asked a question and it was answered.

 

[gret]

Yea because under our current system, 'each person is allotted resources according to his or her input, or amount of work'. Right?

I'll bet that old money family I picked up in Aspen, who was coming off a two week ski vacation, on their way to puerto vallarta really works their pampered little asses off.

This country is now a plutocracy. About as far from socialism or communism as you can get.

They may have won the sperm lottery...but somebody did work their tails off and they should be able to do whatever they want with the benefits of their, or their ancestors, success.

Jealousy never is a good trait.