AirTran MEC: Whine on!

[madjack]

Welcome

 

[SWA/FO]

Hand-flying and landing are basically mechanical skills. International flying can be plenty challenging; it's not all talking to Miami Center while flying across open water in radar contact.

Some of those places have arcane procedures you will vaguely remember, plus rocks in the clouds and "controllers" who will cheerfully give you permission to kill yourself in several languages, none of which sound much like English. :laugh:

As Madjack states: Most Southwest Pilots have flown international. I know the Trannys invented the single engine taxi, but they didn't invent international flying!!

 

[redflyer65]

No, my jet is bigger than yours....happy? Child.....

I read this board for entertainment, but when you go all "look at me and how we are the best" warrior blah blah blah garbage....I just gotta chime in.

You did those AT pilots no favors and then feed them more bs about how well you treated them? Save it....

You making a point Bill or just blathering on to hear yourself talk.

I keep looking at you post for some factual info or specific point. I can't find it.

I could care less about who's jet is bigger, etc. I've never said anything about being the best or about warrior spirit. That's not my MO. I usually just try to stick to the facts. If you have a problem with some factual point I make, then refute it. I'm not afraid to say I got something wrong, so go for it.

I guess you just decided to pull those things out of your arse (warrior spirt, etc) to make some stupid, useless point. Maybe you should get together with the Gen and start a new DL thread. You haven't said anything worth reading in this one. Didn't you guys have some block party to talk about?

 

[maxblast72]

1. Ethics matter, and they evidently have none.

Maybe if our secret recording specialist former MEC rep isn't too busy recording private conversations with senior Southwest management or our Merger Committee chairman, she can teach an ethics class at SWAPA after she crosses the partition.

 

[Ty Webb]

Most pilots at SWA have flown international...

Yeah, but anything aft of the flight deck door doesn't count. :laugh:

Neither does being tethered to the mothership in between US Airbases.

 

[madjack]

Plenty of former regional guys have intl exp....whats ur point Cappy.

 

[dalad]

Plenty of former regional guys have intl exp....whats ur point Cappy.

No they don't. Flying to a couple of cities in Mexico doesn't count. Wow, they talked to Monterrey Center, or maybe it was Mazatlan. Flying the WATRS routes, the NAT tracks, a random route to Africa, or deep SA is International. I know, going to Mexico is technically international, but there's nothing challenging about it.

 

[madjack]

Tell that to CP Webb

 

[Ty Webb]

Tell that to CP Webb

Now that's funny right there, Capt. Micropenis.

Try to stand a little closer to the lav, would ya? The cleaners have been complaining. Better yet, just sit down. :laugh:

 

[madjack]

The way you cry like a baby on here is really sad and stooping to phallic insults when u can't make an argument is an insult to the your regional airline ...oh and ur a big *************************

 

[scoreboardII]

The difference (if there is a difference) is that the pilots who were awarded 717 positions to occupy when they crossed the fence to SW in the transition bid will be displaced out of equipment because their awarded bid position doesn't exist anymore. To my knowledge this has never happened to a SW pilot, getting pushed out the bottom of a base when the company reduces the size of the base is not the same thing. I don't know what, if anything, the SW contract says as far as handling an equipment displacement but I think that's the question.

Let's say that tomorrow SW said they were buying 20 787's, awarded the vacancies and sent a bunch of pilots off to school. Then, after the pilots completed training and flew the planes for a year the company disposed of the 787 fleet and these pilots got displaced from their 787 equipment bid awards and had to go back to the 737. Would these (let's say very senior) pilots have to go back to say, OAK and LAS if those were the only bases available or could they use their seniority to displace more junior pilots to get back to DAL, HOU or wherever? This is the scenario that's being discussed I think but I may be wrong. I don't know if the SW contract says anything because SW only has one aircraft type so it's never happened before until now.

In this case, the pilots would move to where there was one, an opening and two, to where their seniority would hold. So if all the 787 spots moved to OAK, then yes, they would all go to OAK, no matter seniority, and would not be able to move to another domicile until a vacancy existed that they could hold based on their seniority.

Highly unlikely though, first, getting rid of jets without jets to replace them.... While SWA has backed out of markets slowly, they have with rare exception, never walked away. And usually only because they had other bigger fish to fry with the assets at their disposal (SFO and DEN first time closings ring the bell)

 

[freightdogfred]

In this case, the pilots would move to where there was one, an opening and two, to where their seniority would hold. So if all the 787 spots moved to OAK, then yes, they would all go to OAK, no matter seniority, and would not be able to move to another domicile until a vacancy existed that they could hold based on their seniority.

Highly unlikely though, first, getting rid of jets without jets to replace them.... While SWA has backed out of markets slowly, they have with rare exception, never walked away. And usually only because they had other bigger fish to fry with the assets at their disposal (SFO and DEN first time closings ring the bell)

You mean like closing AVL and HPN on the FL side to expand service in Branson?

 

[XRMEFLYER]

The way you cry like a baby on here is really sad and stooping to phallic insults when u can't make an argument is an insult to the your regional airline ...oh and ur a big *************************

His "regional" airline? Is that supposed to be some kind of put down? You do fly for SWA right? U probably don't even see the irony in that do ya?

 

[ATLplt]

His "regional" airline? Is that supposed to be some kind of put down? You do fly for SWA right? U probably don't even see the irony in that do ya?

Madjackhole made the mistake of wiping back to front this morning, and now his vagina is painfully infected. Makes him VERY irritable.

 

[madjack]

Welcome to the bigs! Don't trip over yourselves scrambling to get off the rat ship!