US Airways Calls

[abefly]

Sure, with the Nic implementation, next week right?

Why wait, every furloughed FO from the West can already hold Captain on the East on the current bid.

Not next week, unless Silver rules that quick. However, it might be just in time for the next bid. September,I believe, is next.

Turtle, you and Metro seem so confident in USAPA. Do you truly believe that you will win and get your D.O.H. list?

The best case scenario here for you is it goes to arbitration with 3 seniority lists( and that's a real long shot). Do you really think the arbitrators this time around won't use the nic? Or even adjust the nic to favor the west pilots even more . The evidence is overwhelming against USAPA.

 

[Turtle21]

Not next week, unless Silver rules that quick. However, it might be just in time for the next bid. September,I believe, is next.

Turtle, you and Metro seem so confident in USAPA. Do you truly believe that you will win and get your D.O.H. list?

The best case scenario here for you is it goes to arbitration with 3 seniority lists( and that's a real long shot). Do you really think the arbitrators this time around won't use the nic? Or even adjust the nic to favor the west pilots even more . The evidence is overwhelming against USAPA.

You seem to implicitly assume that the Nic is binding on USAPA. The 9th saw that too in the dissent's opinion. "The dissent appears implicitly to assume that the Nicolau Award, the product of the internal rules and processes of ALPA, is binding on USAPA."

I have never expected DOH or even thought that it was the only answer, but anything less harmful than the Nic is a win. And I have posted before that I expect the final SLI will be arbitrated as a three way based on relative position.

The present request for an injunction against USAPA is very strange (that is the purpose of the May 14th court date with Silver).. did you notice that the injunction doesn't request USAPA and USAir to use the Nic now, or even at the POR, but instead the Plaintiff asks that USAPA and USAir be required to use the Nic during SLI with APA, but not operationally before a final JCBA?

 

[General Lee]

You seem to implicitly assume that the Nic is binding on USAPA. The 9th saw that too in the dissent's opinion. "The dissent appears implicitly to assume that the Nicolau Award, the product of the internal rules and processes of ALPA, is binding on USAPA."

I have never expected DOH or even thought that it was the only answer, but anything less harmful than the Nic is a win. And I have posted before that I expect the final SLI will be arbitrated as a three way based on relative position.

The present request for an injunction against USAPA is very strange (that is the purpose of the May 14th court date with Silver).. did you notice that the injunction doesn't request USAPA and USAir to use the Nic now, or even at the POR, but instead the Plaintiff asks that USAPA and USAir be required to use the Nic during SLI with APA, but not operationally before a final JCBA?

But the latest Judge, and the one ruling again soon, Judge Silver, saw right through you, stating "USAPA is walking on dangerous ground...." I guess you think she was just joking, right? Why doesn't the company agree with you guys and USAPA and just move along with your list? Oh, that's right, they probably also see major flaws with your reasoning and don't want to get sued either.....At least we know USAPA will be short lived and will be promptly voted out "by majority (how ironic) by every AA pilot and every F-AWA pilot. Sweet justice.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Turtle21]

98%

 

[General Lee]

98%

True, and now the case is ripe because of it. Well done Westies.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[PGTB]

Is there a confirmed class starting on monday?

 

[johnnyb]

Unfortunately, this is true. The East has captured around 100 upgrades in return for losing Billions of dollars since 2007. Not the smartest pilot group.

we had 100 upgrades just in August.

 

[abefly]

we had 100 upgrades just in August.

I hope they enjoy vacation in January and the new Reserve system. They will see a lot of it.

 

[JECKEL]

The "new" reserve system is still being melded.
But, from what I've heard, the rules under the new system will be a little better, 13 days off a month and a long call out to 12 hours.
Not bad for these new captains.

 

[crashmbern]

Any idea what the short call out time will be.