Southwest changing it's "stance" in ATL. HMMMMMM

[General Lee]

Couldn't resist

Delta ATL-MCI today First class $465

Southwest ATL-MCI Business Select $348

20 times more?

Is that the walk up fare? Btw, RED was wrong about 90-100 open seats on all flights tomorrow from ATL to MCI. Most have about 25-30 seats open, and the last 757 has a minus number in the back. Those bag fees probably help too. Gotta make money to make big profits.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[maxblast72]

It's Max, the AT guy trying to be the first AT Chief Pilot at SWA. You are one of the only "giddy" AT pilots, on this board anyway. It looks like you have gotten over the SLI, and that is impressive. Let's hope the rest do within the next decade.

I am not happy with the SLI. My unhappiness is with our former MEC and how they withheld information from our pilot group. That is why 120 AirTran pilots have filed a DFR lawsuit against our former MEC/ALPA.

At the end of the day regardless of which SIA package was voted in by both sides, the only thing that will help both Southwest and AirTran pilots is hitting Gary's 15% ROIC target and resuming fleet/blockhour growth at Southwest.

I understand you would like Southwest to be a weaker competitior for Delta so you continually come on here and try to stir the pot.

And if profits continue to be twice or three times yours each year, the pension obligations may be taken care of. You know that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Delta's annual revenue is over twice Southwest's so I would hope your net profit is twice Southwest's. Also, Southwest has $3 billion in long term debt and zero obligation to their retired employees while Delta has $10 billion in long term debt and a $24 billion obligations to their retired employees (with $8 billion in the bank to pay for those obligations).

Unfortunately for Delta, that underfunding is growing at the rate of $2 billion per year. I am a pilot and not an accountant, but that doesn't seem like a good trend. It will be interesting to see how the balance sheet looks in 5 years at Delta.

 

[DairyAir]

Walk up fare for today

LGA-ORD 12:15pm DL5943
First class three free checked bags

$403..........and it's an rj

What business traveler walks up and buys a ticket? Hello? Isn't there an app for that?

 

[canyonblue]

Ahhhh, that explains a lot. Anyway, whenever DL starts hiring off the street, if you want something different, I hope you apply. With the amount of eventual retirements coming, you might beat Max to the left seat while at DL. Take care.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Did you guys drop the College Degree requirement? If not, he won't beat Max to anything.

 

[slaquer5]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PCL_128
Nah, that won't happen. The SWAPA contract requires you to be a SWA captain for a few years before you can be a CP. And thanks to Max's seniority integration, he won't be a captain for a long, long time.



That's because he helped to craft it. He was on our MC, General.


__________________

Ahhhh, that explains a lot. Anyway, whenever DL starts hiring off the street, if you want something different, I hope you apply. With the amount of eventual retirements coming, you might beat Max to the left seat while at DL. Take care.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Dude,

Do you ever work for DAL?

I am willing to bet a C note your not a pilot for DAL

 

[General Lee]

Dude,

Do you ever work for DAL?

I am willing to bet a C note your not a pilot for DAL

Then I just won a C note. Thanks. I do work a lot, but my smart phone allows me to check in and enjoy FI anywhere, even in Europe. I still go out and enjoy the layovers, but even from my room I can see the fun everyone is having on here. It's not magic. Tell you what, forget the C note to me and go get yourself a smart phone. You're welcome.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Walk up fare for today

LGA-ORD 12:15pm DL5943
First class three free checked bags

$403..........and it's an rj

What business traveler walks up and buys a ticket? Hello? Isn't there an app for that?

Soon they will be ex-AirTran 717s, not RJs. Thanks!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[canyonblue]

Then I just won a C note. Thanks. I do work a lot, but my smart phone allows me to check in and enjoy FI anywhere, even in Europe. I still go out and enjoy the layovers, but even from my room I can see the fun everyone is having on here. It's not magic. Tell you what, forget the C note to me and go get yourself a smart phone. You're welcome.


Bye Bye---General Lee

There's no way any pilot actually talks like this, is there? Either a poser or a screwball.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

I am not happy with the SLI. My unhappiness is with our former MEC and how they withheld information from our pilot group. That is why 120 AirTran pilots have filed a DFR lawsuit against our former MEC/ALPA.
.

Wow, 7% of the FL pilots have filed suit. Does that carry a lot of weight with you?

Almost twice the number of pilots voted against this horrible deal. Why aren't there 1400 pilots a part of that suit?

 

[Scoot 11]

:smash:

Scooter,
Stop defending the indefensible - I said I'd be digging into you if you guys at dalpa reloaded the whipsaw regional market-
Just keeping a promise-

Apparently, you don't have the ability to ignore me, so I must be hitting a nerve.

That's good.

Better than listening to GL armchair CEO his way through his qualified opinions

Wavey:
I'm not defending anything. I'm simply pointing out that you did IN FACT pay for your job.
Apparently it hit a nerve.
It's not that I can't ignore you, you're just like that itch that flares up after a night with your sister. Unfortunately I just can't get rid of it.

 

[Phlintstone]

Hey General,

I'm out with my family eating at a Carrabba's and there is a dorky Delta pilot sitting at the bar in uniform. Is that you?

Phred

 

[redflyer65]

Is that the walk up fare? Btw, RED was wrong about 90-100 open seats on all flights tomorrow from ATL to MCI. Most have about 25-30 seats open, and the last 757 has a minus number in the back. Those bag fees probably help too. Gotta make money to make big profits.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I never said anything about tomorrow's loads General. I said the loads are weak from now past Memorial Day.

Here's your average load for all of next week (7 days).....70%. I wouldn't call that very good in todays environment. So no, I wasn't wrong on the flights NOT being full. They aren't, but thanks for trying to spin this into another DL vs. SW thread, I could care less.

Idiotic....as usual.

Max,

Pension obiligations in the Billions....with a B? That's huge.

RF

 

[Flyer1015]

Then why the hell buy AirTran. What an epic failure. AirTran's biggest strength was its ATL fortress, that competed well with Delta. SWA comes in swoops up AirTran with 717s and 737s. It's pretty obvious that SWA was not going to operate the 717 (or anything other than a 737) so that was a waste. Result? All leased out to Delta. Goodbye jobs. Next, the AirTran ATL hub. Result? Reduced now to just a SWA focus city. Goodbye more jobs and ATL hub status. So the net result of this merger was a handful of AirTran 737s and slots at various airports through the country. What a stupid non-beneficial merger (if you can even call it a merger).

 

[PCL_128]

What a stupid non-beneficial merger (if you can even call it a merger).

Careful, the cheerleaders will string you up for daring to suggest that Gary doesn't walk on water!

 

[General Lee]

Hey General,

I'm out with my family eating at a Carrabba's and there is a dorky Delta pilot sitting at the bar in uniform. Is that you?

Phred

Nah, I ate dinner next to the REAL Eiffel Tower, you know, not in Las Vegas. Maybe someday you'll go there and crap your pants with excitement. You'll be saying "this ain't Lubbock or Midland, and the people's, them people's speak weird......hey Mama (your wife), what's they sayin?"


Bye Bye----General Lee