Was that a landing?

[CA1900]

Wow...


Next topic: Yoke pumpers! :laugh:

 

[4mr72drvr]

Ever done a gusty, crosswind landing in a 727-200. This is where the phrase "any one you walk away from, is a good one", came from.

 

[RT8VA]

sounds like one of the guys who holds the nose off till the tail runs out of down force and the nose wheel crashes to the runway

 

[booo]

A wise old Captain once told me "There are only three simple things a pilot must do to make a perfect landing every time, and you don't seem to know any of them."

When his next landing was just gawd awful, he said " There's never been a pilot born that knows all three!"

 

[SWA GUY]

Juniority,

Its not really MILLIONS of extra foot pounds of energy.... its really only TENS of extra foot pounds of energy. The schoolhouse likes to use big numbers to scare you.

 

[fletch717]

I hear you. All of those considerations are valid.

The thing that bothers me is all the extra energy (the millions of extra foot/pounds of brake energy) that has to be dissipated when somebody lands with all that extra speed.

And I'm not even trying to suggest that it's dangerous (in 99.99% of landings), it's just that it makes for an ugly, noisy, uncomfortable, graceless, passenger-slinging, hard braking type of roll-out when the fast-landers try to make the first (or second) turnoff.

Millions of foot pounds and 1.21 giga watts oh my god Dude.....really, you are exactly why AF guys get the reputation. Every flight is a mission to mars. 16,000 hours I've never even had a thought like that. BTW some of the worst pilots I have flown with were AF because of stuff like that.

 

[Hikoushi]

....Watch: ukeAll that no-one-else-is-a-real-Pilot-but-ME bull********************)

Get over it. Try to enjoy you life and your job more. You are not better than everyone else. Neither am I or anyone else. And no one would care if you were, either. Study hard, fly well, do your job to the best of your ability, try to expand your own box a little when you can, WITHOUT looking down on everyone else because they aren't as "perfect" as you.

If you are a captain, give your FO's enough space and autonomy to do their job well, and trust (but verify!) them to get it done. Watch what they do when you let them do their job their own way; you just may learn something new. If you don't like it or they aren't up to snuff, take command and change it. But don't pull that trigger over stupid little micromanaging BS things.

If you are a first officer, give the captain enough space and authority to run the ship their own way without constantly second-guessing them on stuff that is more to do with their personal rhythm than flight safety. If it is within the bounds of legality, safety, "standard-enoughness", respect, and reason, learn and try the captain's way of doing things, even if you don't like it, just to exercise your own mental flexibility. Keep what works and chuck the rest.

Have a beer. Lighten up.

 

[dollacrackho]

What is the ideal pee angle when standing at a urinal to prevent splashback?

 

[CRJ puppy]

What is the ideal pee angle when standing at a urinal to prevent splashback?

You need to decrease your pee vector speed by 10 kts. You're wasting excess energy in the form of splash back!

 

[Just thinking]

What is the ideal pee angle when standing at a urinal to prevent splashback?

Depends on the angle of the dangle.... some of us are on our tip toes to reach and arc upward to hit the wall never mind the urinal

 

[buxflyr]

So, based on these responses, I'm guessing it wouldn't be well accepted to say anything here on Flightinfo about the guy who adds 5 or 10 knots to his callout of the computed V rotate speed?

This is dependent upon the conditions.

For example,it is completely acceptable and common practice in windshear conditions.

 

[fletch717]

This is dependent upon the conditions.

For example,it is completely acceptable and common practice in windshear conditions.

Since all of your weights are an average, who's to say if 5 or 10 kts is wrong. You don't really know the exact weight. As far as landing, when you are super light. vspeeds are computed on your ability to go around single engine (VMC ground) that speed can be 10 kts or more than what is required to land. Most guys fly, don't try to reinvent the wheel.

 

[SWA GUY]

What if you are peeing Vref +5, and you suddenly find yourself in a WINDSHEAR situation?

Or, what if you are having a bit of stage fright and are cleared for take off? Do you then have to clear the runway and complete an IR?


Juniority, you know we are just razzin' you, right?

 

[ASA_Aviator]

WTF?

Am I missing something? Since when does it matter what "the book" says regarding the definition of "landing?" If the plane is flying, then it ceases to fly, you landed.

You can discuss if it was a standard landing, or if it was a good landing, but you landed.

This sh!t ain't hard guys.

 

[rigger]

......and to think I'm just thrilled to death every time I find the airport I'm supposed to be at let alone worry about wether I "landed" or not

 

[HalinTexas]

No one remembers the speed at which you touched down. They remember how smooth it was.

 

[dollacrackho]

I like to come in at least 20 kts hot and hold that baby off all the way down . if I don't use every inch of that runway I feel like a failure. Passengers always say it was the best landing they've ever felt. PS you know this ****************************** tells everyone he flies with that they didn't actually land the plane.

 

[pilotyip]

I think I made a landing like that once during Navy Flight Training, I flared, nice smooth touchdown. My instructor yelling through the headset said "If I ever see a pussified (word?) landing like that again, you are going to get a down, Flaring is for civilians and Air Force winnies" In training we dragged the airplane to the airport with power at a constant angel of attack, took a power off cut to a firm landing.

 

[rumpletumbler]

This post made the poster insecurity klaxons sound so loudly I couldn't hear the post.

 

[The Drizzle]

This is my new favorite thread on FI.