AMR/LCC Merger and Furlough Question...

[kj6991]

I'm starting class soon with US Airways. I know it's a gamble, as with anything I guess. I'm leaving a Captain seat at a good regional to go, mind you I have plenty of TPIC. I know this is a vague question with a million different opinions, but if the merger happens, is furlough right off the bat a real possibility?

 

[The Drizzle]

I'm starting class soon with US Airways. I know it's a gamble, as with anything I guess. I'm leaving a Captain seat at a good regional to go, mind you I have plenty of TPIC. I know this is a vague question with a million different opinions, but if the merger happens, is furlough right off the bat a real possibility?

Sure.

 

[The Drizzle]

I'm starting class soon with US Airways. I know it's a gamble, as with anything I guess. I'm leaving a Captain seat at a good regional to go, mind you I have plenty of TPIC. I know this is a vague question with a million different opinions, but if the merger happens, is furlough right off the bat a real possibility?

Nope.

 

[The Drizzle]

That should just about cover it.

 

[The Drizzle]

Realtalk: take your first legacy job prepared for and expecting your first furlough.



********************, make that two furloughs just in case.

 

[General Lee]

I'm starting class soon with US Airways. I know it's a gamble, as with anything I guess. I'm leaving a Captain seat at a good regional to go, mind you I have plenty of TPIC. I know this is a vague question with a million different opinions, but if the merger happens, is furlough right off the bat a real possibility?

I think it could happen, but we all know that USAir East has a bunch of old guys ready to retire, and they will in droves. If the merger happens, and you were hired after the announcement, then you would be placed by an arbitrator at the bottom of the list, which means you could get furloughed first. Of course, the US Easties would have to agree to arbitration this time without crossing their fingers..... Regardless, I think you are in a good spot. Getting in at the BEGINNING of a hiring wave. There will be retirements, if a merger happens you are in a good spot (hired before any newhires on the AA side), and the beginning of a wave. WELL DONE. Now just get through the eventual joint contract and raise, and the SLI that may be contentious. If you can do that, you will be set.

As far as being furloughed, if there is a lot of hub overlap, then they could do that. But, I don't see a lot of hubs that are close other than JFK (AA) and PHL (US), even though both are large cities that can support themselves, and PHL is more of a domestic hub compared to the INTL airport of JFK. Still, I don't see much downsizing (maybe PHX a bit due to the loss of headquarters to DFW if it happens), and the huge amount of retirements on both sides in the next few years would put you in a good spot. I think it was a good move.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[reepicheep]

I would think the main furlough concern would be if there's not a merger.

 

[Daddy]

I don't know what you're situation is, but if you think that you as a newhire will go ahead of all those furloughed AMR pilots, you might want to reconsider. I would EXPECT a furlough if i were you. Mergers rarely result in a net gain of jobs. The SWA newhires got bent over pretty hard in the merger with airtran. Thats a tough one though with all the retirements coming.

 

[V1rowt8]

Short term at AMR/USAIR merged company, quit regional flying an RJ,get to fly an RJ at a major in the right seat for a lot less and less seniority.. bummer. Long term, eventualy, hopefully you will make more at the new AMR if they merge than you ever would at the regional you were at, depending on how old you are.

 

[filejw]

I don't know what you're situation is, but if you think that you as a newhire will go ahead of all those furloughed AMR pilots, you might want to reconsider. I would EXPECT a furlough if i were you. Mergers rarely result in a net gain of jobs. The SWA newhires got bent over pretty hard in the merger with airtran. Thats a tough one though with all the retirements coming.

After 4 mergers I would say that people on furlough generally make out poorly compared to folks that are working.