Age 65 Retirement passes House 390-0

[densoo]

Actually its 9.

Depends on what you're counting down to I guess. 12/12/12 is the last day of the age 65 rule stalling our careers (eight). 12/13/12 is the first day those careers resume movement up the seniority list (nine).

 

[HA25]

Depends on what you're counting down to I guess. 12/12/12 is the last day of the age 65 rule stalling our careers (eight). 12/13/12 is the first day those careers resume movement up the seniority list (nine).

what you guys don't get is that we're all also 5 years older now.... it's a lose/lose either way.. the 65ers won, and we all lost, cause now we gotta work to 65 to get the same career.

 

[pilotyip]

what you guys don't get is that we're all also 5 years older now.... it's a lose/lose either way.. the 65ers won, and we all lost, cause now we gotta work to 65 to get the same career.

If you like your job, you can never be a looser. There are so few people who get paid to do something they like. This makes you an exception to the average job holder, therefore you can not be a looser

 

[OHGOON]

what you guys don't get is that we're all also 5 years older now.... it's a lose/lose either way.. the 65ers won, and we all lost, cause now we gotta work to 65 to get the same career.

Amen.

However considering how many of us got totally screwed by 9/11 and its aftermath, there may be less of us crying about it when we get to 60 than you might suspect because many will be able to postpone dog food for dinner another 5 yrs.

Just sayin...

 

[OHGOON]

If you like your job, you can never be a looser. There are so few people who get paid to do something they like. This makes you an exception to the average job holder, therefore you can not be a looser

Assuming he actually likes his job. Not really an automatic these days in aviation anymore I'm afraid.

 

[GogglesPisano]

As opposed to a "tighter."

Sorry, Yip. Couldn't resist.

 

[HA25]

Amen.

However considering how many of us got totally screwed by 9/11 and its aftermath, there may be less of us crying about it when we get to 60 than you might suspect because many will be able to postpone dog food for dinner another 5 yrs.

Just sayin...

I hear of anecdotal examples of guys calling it, and hanging up their wings... but I'm still not sure there is some massive looming shortage of pilots willing to work for legacy carriers and places like Southwest, Fedex or UPS.... Yip's outfit is a whole other story..

 

[SXMp2c]

As opposed to a "tighter."

Sorry, Yip. Couldn't resist.

you think, at his age he would be able to spell. should have gone to college

 

[HA25]

Assuming he actually likes his job. Not really an automatic these days in aviation anymore I'm afraid.

after years wondering the airline wilderness, I'm finally enjoying my job again.... yes. BUT I really don't fancy flying into my mid 60's.. Although if I age well, maybe I'll change my mind by then.

 

[HA25]

you think, at his age he would be able to spell. should have gone to college

careful, you're about to get one of those famous Yip... "Sorry to bother you" messages in your private mail... where he explains his lengthy and otherwise amazing career, then tries to justify why he is working for USA Jet in management... I'm sure others know what I'm talking about.

 

[densoo]

what you guys don't get is that we're all also 5 years older now.... it's a lose/lose either way.. the 65ers won, and we all lost, cause now we gotta work to 65 to get the same career.

I think we all got that. With the seniority most of us will have at 60 we can choose to work nearly part time with benefits, expecially with the GOP's counteroffer today to raise the Medicare eligibility age to 67.

I'm just counting down the days until we start seeing some movement because, as poking yourself in the eye with a stick, it feels so good when you stop.

 

[PCL_128]

careful, you're about to get one of those famous Yip... "Sorry to bother you" messages in your private mail... where he explains his lengthy and otherwise amazing career, then tries to justify why he is working for USA Jet in management... I'm sure others know what I'm talking about.

He's still doing those? I think I got one from him a decade ago. My favorite part was where he talked about how his career would have been even better if he had scabbed at CAL in the '80s. Such a great guy.

 

[pilotyip]

He's still doing those? I think I got one from him a decade ago. My favorite part was where he talked about how his career would have been even better if he had scabbed at CAL in the '80s. Such a great guy.

Hi lnog tmie no see, how are thnigs? Tlak abuot a thearad cmoing bcak to lfie. Graet meomry, saty in tucoh:laugh:

 

[flyboyike]

I think we all got that. With the seniority most of us will have at 60 we can choose to work nearly part time with benefits, expecially with the GOP's counteroffer today to raise the Medicare eligibility age to 67.

With my luck I'll still be an F/O on reserve at age 60, probably at a regional no less. No way I'm doing that past 60, most likely not even past 55.

 

[HA25]

Hi lnog tmie no see, how are thnigs? Tlak abuot a thearad cmoing bcak to lfie. Graet meomry, saty in tucoh:laugh:

Yip... I think without you and General Lee there would be no reason for me to come one here anymore. You are like a worn out old crew room or FBO chair, everyone would love to replace it with a new one but nobody wants to see it go since it's been there forever.

 

[pilotyip]

Yip... I think without you and General Lee there would be no reason for me to come one here anymore. You are like a worn out old crew room or FBO chair, everyone would love to replace it with a new one but nobody wants to see it go since it's been there forever.

Thanks; fans like you just keep me conming back, I do have a lot of fun here.

 

[HA25]

He's still doing those? I think I got one from him a decade ago. My favorite part was where he talked about how his career would have been even better if he had scabbed at CAL in the '80s. Such a great guy.

Yep. ..got one as V70T5 back in '99, then one again as FMS Speed two years ago. .. still waiting for him to cut and paste one into my current user id..

 

[pilotyip]

Yep. ..got one as V70T5 back in '99, then one again as FMS Speed two years ago. .. still waiting for him to cut and paste one into my current user id..

Trying to hide from something, all these name changes, witness protection program? I prefer not to hide behind a screen name. BTW Many of the people I have sent to whom I have sent the PM resonsded by sharing their aviation story with me. If you want an update PM me

 

[HA25]

Trying to hide from something, all these name changes, witness protection program? I prefer not to hide behind a screen name. BTW Many of the people I have sent to whom I have sent the PM resonsded by sharing their aviation story with me. If you want an update PM me

Changing my screen name is just because I'm fickle... nothing more. I did like FMS-Speed, but I kept getting messaged to moderate and I am no loger a moderator so I figured I'd just change my name.... timing being what it was, I just got hired at Hawaiian so HA25 made sense..

 

[pilotyip]

Changing my screen name is just because I'm fickle... nothing more. I did like FMS-Speed, but I kept getting messaged to moderate and I am no loger a moderator so I figured I'd just change my name.... timing being what it was, I just got hired at Hawaiian so HA25 made sense..

Well congrats then, that is a good enough reason to change it. Looks like your skill and desire finally matched up with your luck and timing. Best of luck. Now back to the mind games.

 

[densoo]

Seven.

 

[Monster Buck]

I think we all got that. With the seniority most of us will have at 60 we can choose to work nearly part time with benefits, expecially with the GOP's counteroffer today to raise the Medicare eligibility age to 67.

I'm just counting down the days until we start seeing some movement because, as poking yourself in the eye with a stick, it feels so good when you stop.

and so it begins.....the age 65er group will now lobby for this....67

 

[tomgoodman]

The "third rail"

...the GOP's counteroffer today to raise the Medicare eligibility age to 67.

Congress has made previous attempts to shift some Medicare costs to seniors, e.g. in 1989. Whether or not it was a good idea, the backlash was so severe that they fled (literally):

As the Chicago Tribune reported the next day, Aug. 19, 1989:
Congressman Dan Rostenkowski, one of the most powerful politicians in the United States, was booed and chased down a Chicago street Thursday morning by a group of senior citizens after he refused to talk with them about federal health insurance. Shouting "coward," "recall" and "impeach," about 50 people followed the chairman of the U.S. House Ways and Means Committee up Milwaukee Avenue after he left a meeting in the auditorium of the Copernicus Center, 3106 N. Milwaukee Ave., in the heart of his 8th Congressional District on the city's Northwest Side.

Eventually, the 6-foot-4-inch Rostenkowski cut through a gas station, broke into a sprint and escaped into his car, which minutes earlier had one of the elderly protesters, Leona Kozien, draped over the hood. Kozien, one of more than 100 senior citizens who attended the gathering, said she had hoped to talk to Rostenkowski, her congressman, at the meeting.

But Rostenkowski clearly did not want to talk with her, or any of the others who had come to tell their complaints about the high cost of federal catastrophic health insurance. "These people don't understand what the government is trying to do for them," the 61-year-old congressman complained as he tried to outpace his pursuers.

 

[densoo]

To pilots everywhere, from the CFI waiting to get hired by a regional to the widebody FO waiting to upgrade to the CA wanting to move up a few numbers to improve quality of life, the long pause is over. Ladies and gentlemen, resume your career progression.

 

[jonjuan]

To pilots everywhere, from the CFI waiting to get hired by a regional to the widebody FO waiting to upgrade to the CA wanting to move up a few numbers to improve quality of life, the long pause is over. Ladies and gentlemen, resume your career progression.

Huh? You do realize that there are thousands in their late 50s ready to stay thru 65? Stagnation will continue for YEARs.

 

[densoo]

Huh? You do realize that there are thousands in their late 50s ready to stay thru 65? Stagnation will continue for YEARs.

Retirements resume today where they left off five years go. Stagnation and no hiring due to no retirements for five years has ended.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

He's still doing those? I think I got one from him a decade ago. My favorite part was where he talked about how his career would have been even better if he had scabbed at CAL in the '80s. Such a great guy.

Was that before or after you paid 20K for your job at Gulfstream?

 

[HA25]

Retirements resume today where they left off five years go. Stagnation and no hiring due to no retirements for five years has ended.

but in effect the damage was done.... we still lose, and we all now have to work to 65 to get the same career we had 5 years ago... Sure I'm happy, but it's still a massive windfall for those who got it, and a massive loss for those of us in our 30's and 40's..

BTW, what about the timing of that crash of the LR25 being piloted by a 78 year old on the final day of the 65 sunset? Not jumping to conclusions but can't help but notice the irony.

 

[BrickTop]

To pilots everywhere, from the CFI waiting to get hired by a regional to the widebody FO waiting to upgrade to the CA wanting to move up a few numbers to improve quality of life, the long pause is over. Ladies and gentlemen, resume your career progression.

Brilliant.....

 

[eaglesview]

Huh? You do realize that there are thousands in their late 50s ready to stay thru 65? Stagnation will continue for YEARs.

Cmon now, try to keep up.