Just like a 150...

[SSDD]

Landing in Denver yesterday next a UAX Dash 8, all of a sudden the thing turns sideways, I thought they'd had an engine failure and were going to lose control! Then I realized THEY WERE IN A FULL FORWARD SLIP!!!! Are you effing kidding me? I bet those pax really enjoyed that ride...

 

[FishandFly]

A dash 8 isn't even a swept wing. Slip or go-around and waste a hundred bucks in fuel? It's nice to know that there are some pilots out there who still know how to fly an airplane.

What amazes me is when you fly in a small plane with a "big" plane pilot. I flew with one heavy captain who took off the cessna with zero crosswind correction in 15kt winds...

 

[Oakum_Boy]

t-tail airplane. No biggie. I have to agree, many regional pilots have NO idea what a slip is, or how to make a simple crosswind landing. 250-hour schools being taught by 250-hour pilots. Garbage in- garbage out.

 

[LHRCrewDog]

The DHC-8 is a beast. I seem to remember "riding the elevator" which did not involve a forward slip but may have been a better maneuver to get down. But fear not, SSDD, the mighty Dash can handle just about anything, as long as speed is not a concern.

 

[CA1900]

If only it had large whirling discs that could be adjusted to increase drag...

 

[SSDD]

I'm not saying the airplane or the crew can't handle it, but we are in the passenger comfort business. So while fun for the crew, it can't be very comforting to the average passenger.

 

[jetlag7]

if only it had large whirling discs that could be adjusted to increase drag...

 

[FishandFly]

I'm not saying the airplane or the crew can't handle it, but we are in the passenger comfort business. So while fun for the crew, it can't be very comforting to the average passenger.

Ahh come on man.. Do you think grandma in 4a would have been closer to a heart attack seeing the runway for a few seconds or going around? Grandma did just fine.

I'm just annoyed by all the guys (fo and captain) who seem to never overcome the fact that the airplane (all of it) is completely under their control. My soapbox statement: it's an airplane... fly it.

 

[propsarebest]

If only it had large whirling discs that could be adjusted to increase drag...

Or smallish flap like things that pop out on the top of the wing...

 

[kf4amu]

Or smallish flap like things that pop out on the top of the wing...

Yea good thing the dash has flight spoilers

 

[cldsfr79]

A dash 8 isn't even a swept wing. Slip or go-around and waste a hundred bucks in fuel? It's nice to know that there are some pilots out there who still know how to fly an airplane.

If you left yourself to high and need to do a slip, that is poor airmanship. Forcing a landing because you think you can get the plane down is poor airmanship. Freaking out the pax over your mistake is poor airmanship.

Leave forward slips in your 172 days.

Airmanship involves planning, skill, and even making the correct decision to go around.

And if you get called into the CP office far spending to much money by doing a go-around, then you are working at a really sketchy place. A real airline has a no fault go around policy.

 

[imacdog]

A dash 8 isn't even a swept wing. Slip or go-around and waste a hundred bucks in fuel? It's nice to know that there are some pilots out there who still know how to fly an airplane.

Please tell me you aren't serious...

 

[Brasilia Pup]

If you left yourself to high and need to do a slip, that is poor airmanship. Forcing a landing because you think you can get the plane down is poor airmanship. Freaking out the pax over your mistake is poor airmanship.

Leave forward slips in your 172 days.

Airmanship involves planning, skill, and even making the correct decision to go around.

And if you get called into the CP office far spending to much money by doing a go-around, then you are working at a really sketchy place. A real airline has a no fault go around policy.

^^^ I agree.
You are in the airlines now. Act and fly like a professional. Safety first! Hot dog flying is best left to your off-the-clock flying.

 

[sunlitpath]

Ahh come on man.. Do you think grandma in 4a would have been closer to a heart attack seeing the runway for a few seconds or going around? Grandma did just fine.

I'm just annoyed by all the guys (fo and captain) who seem to never overcome the fact that the airplane (all of it) is completely under their control. My soapbox statement: it's an airplane... fly it.

How true it is...

 

[chqflyer]

If you left yourself to high and need to do a slip, that is poor airmanship. Forcing a landing because you think you can get the plane down is poor airmanship. Freaking out the pax over your mistake is poor airmanship.

Leave forward slips in your 172 days.

Airmanship involves planning, skill, and even making the correct decision to go around.

And if you get called into the CP office far spending to much money by doing a go-around, then you are working at a really sketchy place. A real airline has a no fault go around policy.

The company operating those Dash 8's IS a very sketchy company that does put subtle pressure on pilots to "git 'er dun".

 

[Kaman]

If you are in a situation where you have to slip a transport category airplane in revenue operations, you already screwed up by not electing to go around. I am not slamming the crew, but I think it showed poor judgement. Just because you can doesn't mean that you should...just sayin'

 

[chqflyer]

I completely agree. I'm not going to second guess the crew. We've all made dumb decisions for whatever reasons. I'm just saying that our company motto is "safety first, unless it costs money".

 

[Kaman]

So, this was Q?

 

[FishandFly]

In the crj it is a qrh procedure in cruise flight with no altitude restriction to accomplish gravity crossflow and you are telling me that increasing drag with a hershey bar wing is unsafe?

So, naysayers, what is the safety concern here?

 

[imacdog]

Wow, you really are serious about a forward slip to a landing in a transport category aircraft to be reasonable.