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Holy $hit, this thread is why pilots aren't cool anymore. STFU! Seriously, children. Measure your own pee-pee before calling someone else a pencil @ick.

I used to come here often but now the school children have been left unattended in the playground.
 
The maximum number of 76 seat aircraft was reduced from 255 to 223.

The maximum number of 70 seat aircraft was reduced from unlimited to 102. (pesky large turboprop exemption eliminated)

The maximum number of 50 seat aircraft was reduced from unlimited to 125

The total number of fee for departure aircraft was reduced from approx. 600 to a hard cap of 450.

Mainline block hour ratios ensure a greater share of block hours within the Delta brand are flown by Delta pilots.

Furlough protection was improved, as was code-sharing and joint venture protections.

the old contract cap was 255 max 70+76 seat jets
 
The maximum number of 76 seat aircraft was reduced from 255 to 223.

The maximum number of 70 seat aircraft was reduced from unlimited to 102. (pesky large turboprop exemption eliminated)

The maximum number of 50 seat aircraft was reduced from unlimited to 125

The total number of fee for departure aircraft was reduced from approx. 600 to a hard cap of 450.

Mainline block hour ratios ensure a greater share of block hours within the Delta brand are flown by Delta pilots.

Furlough protection was improved, as was code-sharing and joint venture protections.

Come on, FDJ2. You're raining on their Delta bashfest by introducing facts. Much easier for them to blame their problems on us by repeating lies over and over.
 
Boeing will actually take them first, clean them up, paint them, put in new seats, and install wifi.

Actually, they already have WiFi. We use the same WiFi system you guys do. Makes it real convenient to just purchase the GoGo monthly pass and use it on either carrier.
 
And that's on top of 9.3% company match. It's June 29th and I've already maxed out my portion of 17k.

How are you doing?

I'm sure he's doing much better, red, seeing as how he actually has a retirement plan, and we don't. All we have is a 401k. Unlike us, the General doesn't have to contribute a dime of his own money to his retirement if he doesn't want to. He gets 15% contributed to his B-Fund without him doing anything. It's all company money. If he wants to contribute anything, it all goes on top of the company's 15%. In other words, it's better than that 401k that you're bragging about. No pilot should ever brag about a 401k plan. It's embarrassing. Crappy regional contracts have 401k plans. Major airline pilots should have B-Fund pension plans. We're the only major airline that doesn't have one. AirTran had one before SWA gutted it. Maybe you should start thinking about adding that to the list for Section 6 negotiations.
 
I'm sure he's doing much better, red, seeing as how he actually has a retirement plan, and we don't. All we have is a 401k. Unlike us, the General doesn't have to contribute a dime of his own money to his retirement if he doesn't want to. He gets 15% contributed to his B-Fund without him doing anything. It's all company money. If he wants to contribute anything, it all goes on top of the company's 15%. In other words, it's better than that 401k that you're bragging about. No pilot should ever brag about a 401k plan. It's embarrassing. Crappy regional contracts have 401k plans. Major airline pilots should have B-Fund pension plans. We're the only major airline that doesn't have one. AirTran had one before SWA gutted it. Maybe you should start thinking about adding that to the list for Section 6 negotiations.

Well said, I have to roll my eyes when SWA put out some propaganda a while back that they "had the best 401K". Hello, a 401k is only as good as what you earn and that is entirely dependent on what mutual funds you choose, period. Equally important is the amount of matching. SWA does NOT lead the industry by any stretch of the imagination,
A few years ago when SWA was establishing itself in the industry with more productivity and lower wages, one of the things you would see wall street analysts tout about SWA was, unlike most airlines, they were not burdened with expensive pilot retirement funds.
 
But they do have that "warrior spirit," Dan. ;)
 
the old contract cap was 255 max 70+76 seat jets
Yep. 255-76 seat jets was the max. New contract, not so much.
Old contract, unlimited number of 70 seat aircraft, unlimited number of 50 seat aircraft and no mainline to DCI block hour ratios.

Oh yeah, old contract, not global joint venture protection, new contract global joint venture protections.

Worried about that 76 -seat hull, how does an unlimited number of 777/747/380s flown by other than Delta pilots feel.
 
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