Delta TA Passes

[redflyer65]

Hiring for Song will start this fall. Or you can apply at Song Express to fly the -9.

 

[General Lee]

Plenty of people excited about flying the 9. The -900 I mean.

Over 200 50 seaters will leave, and be capped at 125 total. 70 76 seaters are added and capped. 148 fewer RJs total. That's good.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Hiring for Song will start this fall. Or you can apply at Song Express to fly the -9.

How's the stagnation going at SWA? I did see where your $1 billion "savings" will be going when you deferred your 30 737-800s. Apparently 5 of your planes will try "live TV" for a test period. So, in reality, you will be the next Song, called "Dhong.". One class LCC with live TV type entertainment. Have fun on "Dhong."


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[johnsonrod]

So, in a near economic DEPRESSION thanks to Barry Obama, you Delta guys get more airplanes (add 80+ 717s and 25+ MD90s), far fewer RJs (SUCKS FOR ME ), better strategic alliance control with other airlines (more scope control), big raise over 3 years, better work rules and you get the ability to negotiate the next contract in 2.5-3 years from now. Sure, a bigger raise now would be better - but there would be tradeoffs in the negotiation. If you are a Democrat, you probably think you are entitled to get things FOR FREE - but that ain't the case - even in this negotiation and Anderson knows that. You can't guarantee a second offer would be much better in a collapsing economy - Anderson could remove items from negotiation and "Transtar your a$$." :laugh: It's possible. Think about it - you guys will be negotiating an even better contract in just a few years... IMO, adding more mainline airplanes, getting a "good" raise (on a relative basis) and massively controlling/changing RJ scope are the biggest wins for now....

From my non-Delta perspective (yeah, not worth much on this board), the overall result sounds pretty good considering the crap economy and the state of the teetering airline business - especially the RJ reduction and better scope control. In Europe, all legacy airlines are cutting back and firing people while smaller state airlines are shutting down and liquidating. Qantas in Australia is on the brink of bankruptcy and chaos. Airlines in South America and India are either merging or bleeding cash. The airline business SUCKS. And if Barry Obama wins another 4 years, we could see this economic disaster continue and things could get worse... :crying:

So, try to look for some positives in this result - you only have another 3 years until you can improve the contract again. Again, just my opinion (and, like an a-hole, everyone has one). :laugh: Plus, mainline aircraft growth means more hiring opportunities down the line - FINGERS CROSSED!

 

[WWEfan]

Yeah, in 3 more years Delta will ask for more and bigger RJ's. They will offer a 3% pay raise in return and the pilots will jump all over it.

 

[redflyer65]

Yeah, in 3 more years Delta will ask for more and bigger RJ's. They will offer a 3% pay raise in return and the pilots will jump all over it.

Bingo!

 

[400A]

I'd much rather be stuck in our no work rule, low paying, concessionary contract than sign off on your Large RJ sellout contract any day.

And thanks to you yes voters, that's probably going to be exactly what will happen to us. Thanks

All this coming from an Ex-E145 driver..... ROFL!!!:laugh:

 

[Scoot 11]

Yeah, our 50 seat scope sucks.

So do your work rules, pay and benefits, but lay it all on scope...
You're too funny. Somewhere a village is looking for you!:laugh:

 

[anewunion]

Lowering the Bar for the industry ? Maybe lowering the seat in my new 717...

 

[Scoot 11]

Not surprising at all. Delta pilots have a history of lowering the bar. I'm sure GL will spin this concession as a good thing like he always does. Maybe you Song guys will get a union someday and have a contract they aren't embarrassed about.

Hey kid, your 1530 cross country just showed up. And just think, another 25 hours of multi and you're Mesa material!

 

[GogglesPisano]

You're welcome. Even the guy who decided to go on a political rant.

 

[ATLplt]

Maybe lowering the seat in my new 717...

Enjoy your engine failures, my Popeye's crumbs, crusty boogers and various body fluids. We'll be sure to send 'em right over...nice and used, with seats smelling of only the freshest of farts. Enjoy!

 

[Flyer1015]

I honestly don't understand what the big fuss is. Lets look at some facts with this TA.

* The overall number of RJs is reduced. -218 CRJ-200s and +70 CRJ-900s.

* Net seats at DCI decrease. -10,900 seats + 5,320 seats = net loss of 5,580 seats at DCI

* DCI's current size will be reduced drastically after this TA (net overall).

* The 76 seaters are already at regionals throughout the industry. The biggest threat, IMO, today is the 100 seater range. I do NOT want to see any Bombardier C-Series or other similar aircraft at 100-110 seats at the regionals. This TA ensures that the 110 seater market is filled by Delta, flown by Delta pilots, with the 717.

* More mainline jobs and less regional jobs with this TA as soon as the planes move.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

The line in the sand use to be 50 seats. Then 70. Now 76. Soon 100 will "not economical to fly at mainline".

 

[Scoot 11]

Enjoy your engine failures, my Popeye's crumbs, crusty boogers and various body fluids. We'll be sure to send 'em right over...nice and used, with seats smelling of only the freshest of farts. Enjoy!

Wow, don't know how to answer that one, except....Enjoy your SW stagnation, and staple. Maybe by the time you retire, you'll be off reserve!

 

[johnsonrod]

Enjoy your engine failures, my Popeye's crumbs, crusty boogers and various body fluids. We'll be sure to send 'em right over...nice and used, with seats smelling of only the freshest of farts. Enjoy!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funniest post I have seen in a long, long time...

Still, this:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7092890&nseq=2

will be a lot better than this:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7292442&nseq=0

 

[redflyer65]

Wow, don't know how to answer that one, except....Enjoy your SW stagnation, and staple. Maybe by the time you retire, you'll be off reserve!

Along with your larger RJs! Did I mention we don't have any? You know ZERO.

 

[SplitBar]

The line in the sand use to be 50 seats. Then 70. Now 76. Soon 100 will "not economical to fly at mainline".

The line was maintained at 76 seats. Delta wanted 82 seaters in exchange for larger pay raises and the NC said that was a deal breaker and was not up for discussion. Never say never but DALPA and the pilots will never allow anything over 76 seats. Management just tried and it didn't happen.

 

[Scoot 11]

Along with your larger RJs! Did I mention we don't have any? You know ZERO.

Did I mention we will be paid HIGHER than the utopia southwest and still don't require our pilots to buy their jobs?:laugh:
Please keep up the entertainment, your infatuation with us is flattering!

 

[DC10]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funniest post I have seen in a long, long time...

Still, this:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7092890&nseq=2

will be a lot better than this:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7292442&nseq=0

Damn! That DC9 cockpit is an abortion. I can't believe those things are still flying in 2012!