Expressjet growing?

[Freebrd]

PBS works for me.

works for me too but I want to see what ExJet has or can get , might be better, might not, but let's be open to it

 

[JettBoii]

Sho nuff bruce leroy

 

[McNugent]

You guys sound like a bunch of 3rd graders. My system is better than your system... blah blah blah. I'm embarrassed to be associated with either side of this BS sometimes. Hopefully most of the pilots on both sides of the fence don't share the same sentiments as some of you blowhards on here (JoeMerchant and Nevets)

 

[777forever]

now how do YOU know that 777? or are you just repeating what you read on here? get the binders off geez

ALPA has stated this several times moron

 

[TDK90]

Is it true that the XJT MEC signed an agreement not to seek one list for all 3 airlines in Inc. during the purchase process?

 

[Freebrd]

ALPA has stated this several times moron

now who is the moron, anyone who believes everything they hear from ALPA (especially ASA ALPA!), and BELIEVES it, is lacking in knowledge and/or common sense of how this whole airline deal works, moron!

 

[cbrown1]

Is it true that the XJT MEC signed an agreement not to seek one list for all 3 airlines in Inc. during the purchase process?

Yes, I believe Atkin wanted that before the deal would be final.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Yes, I believe Atkin wanted that before the deal would be final.

Which begs the question "Why?"...If the XJT group is so mucher tougher and smarter than the ASA group, and if their company was so viable on their own, then why did they give in to Jerry's demand?....Enquiring minds want to know...

 

[JoeMerchant]

I know you know it's not that simple. Your PBS is not the end all be all of PBS systems. How do I know? Because our MEC has actually done research and started educating our pilots.

Name the better PBS systems that airlines are currently using. I know ours is better than Skywest, CAL, and DAL.

Has your MEC done that with line bidding systems, our line bidding systems, other PBS systems?

Yes they have.

As for our work rules, the senior people get what they want and don't need to do anything to their schedules. Everyone else that got stuck with one or more trips they don't want, or got stuck working a day they don't want, or got stuck with four day trips instead of two day trips, or got stuck only having 13 days off instead of more, or got stuck with a reduced rest overnight, or got stuck with a trip with 5 legs on day four, or got stuck with an uncommutable trip, etc etc etc, at least has a chance to change that during the ILIW and then again during the SLIW. So both systems are the same in that the senior people get what they want.

The senior people can't get exactly what they want the first round at XJT, because they are bidding on schedules that the company built. I build my own schedule and put individual trips on the days I choose. Trust me when I say the senior folks can do much better with our PBS.

We don't have to get religion. I believe that PBS is on our future. Just not your PBS and work rules. The plan is already in motion to maneuver around the intransigent MEC.

Good luck with that. The negotiating environment is getting worse every day. Eagle is in BK and will be taking concessions. Pinnacle is right behind Eagle at the steps of the BK courthouse steps. I suspect CHQ/Republic/Shuttle isn't far behind. With the demands your MEC is after, this will drag out for years....fine by me....

And if the plan doesnt work, I'm positive that we would absolutely br ok with staying separate until the whole ship sinks.

Why would it sink?

 

[wms]

Is it true that the XJT MEC signed an agreement not to seek one list for all 3 airlines in Inc. during the purchase process?

Only until the jcba is signed.