Pinnacoloba bankruptcy this week

[e=mc2]

Yep I'm sure all the Pinn boys will jump on the ALPO Give Away Train. They have for sure forgot that TW boned them in the SLI, so enjoy the ride down the drain.

 

[i fly boxes]

I just hope this happens fast whatever it is

 

[xjhawk]

I wanna know what the Mesaba flow ups to Delta WHO TURNED IT DOWN think now? Delta made $952 million in bag fees alone last year.


Bye Bye---General Lee

You would be surprised at how many of the senior Mesaba pilots still think this place will be a good place to be the rest of their career. I mention to them about ASA's being rebid or terminated for the lower bidder and they say they are senior enough that they will still be able to hold MSP or DTW (where they live). I tend to think good for them, as they will not be competing with me to jump ship (Mesaba was a back up plan for me for my career-if I had to stay I would be happy as a captain in MSP where I live-but now that I was screwed by the ALPO merger policy-I will leave)

if you did not get the dig-ALPA's merger policy is about as good as the worst dog food out there-way to protect your members ALPA

 

[bri5150]

(Mesaba was a back up plan for me for my career-if I had to stay I would be happy as a captain in MSP where I live-but now that I was screwed by the ALPO merger policy-I will leave)

I agree. I used to think this was a great backup plan. I am not so much concerned about the integration messing that up as I am the big elephant in the room with the 200 ASA. Also the fact that all regionals are subject to complete failure. What would those senior guys say if you brought up Comair?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

$1.51....

52wk High/Date
8.68 / 1/3/2011

52wk Low/Date
1.40 / 12/8/2011

 

[General Lee]

You would be surprised at how many of the senior Mesaba pilots still think this place will be a good place to be the rest of their career. I mention to them about ASA's being rebid or terminated for the lower bidder and they say they are senior enough that they will still be able to hold MSP or DTW (where they live). I tend to think good for them, as they will not be competing with me to jump ship (Mesaba was a back up plan for me for my career-if I had to stay I would be happy as a captain in MSP where I live-but now that I was screwed by the ALPO merger policy-I will leave)

if you did not get the dig-ALPA's merger policy is about as good as the worst dog food out there-way to protect your members ALPA

Gimmee a break! One of the most junior planes at Delta is the MD88 FO in MSP...then goes DTW 320. The problem is most of those senior guys can't take a 1-2 year paycut, and that is short sighted. Those guys that didn't accept the flow up, are now probably thinking "wow, that wasn't smart."

As far as the ALPA merger policy goes, you just can't compare RJ companies to Legacies. No DOH policy will do. I still remember ASA guys jumping up and down when Delta bought ASA, thinking they would just blend in, DOH. One of their Captains was on our jumpseat, and he stated he had enough seniority to be a DL MD11 FO. We all laughed.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[jynxyjericho]

Gimmee a break! One of the most junior planes at Delta is the MD88 FO in MSP...then goes DTW 320. The problem is most of those senior guys can't take a 1-2 year paycut, and that is short sighted. Those guys that didn't accept the flow up, are now probably thinking "wow, that wasn't smart."

As far as the ALPA merger policy goes, you just can't compare RJ companies to Legacies. No DOH policy will do. I still remember ASA guys jumping up and down when Delta bought ASA, thinking they would just blend in, DOH. One of their Captains was on our jumpseat, and he stated he had enough seniority to be a DL MD11 FO. We all laughed.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Let's be clear, The first ~115 or so that turned it down was when the flow was still to NWA. That was a 7 year cut for guys who were 55 and above, so you do the math.

Also, lets be realistic, Delta isn't a career goal for some of those pilots who said no. Other guys don't care about the extra money at Delta, they make six figures without trying and get 18 days off.

Some of the problem is Delta's pay isn't enough for our older pilots to make the jump, and even after a bankruptcy most of these guys who have said no will still be able to hold 15 days off and +100K a year.

Besides, I heard a rumor the Avro is coming back.

 

[IamGumbyDammit]

Gimmee a break! One of the most junior planes at Delta is the MD88 FO in MSP...then goes DTW 320. The problem is most of those senior guys can't take a 1-2 year paycut, and that is short sighted. Those guys that didn't accept the flow up, are now probably thinking "wow, that wasn't smart."


Bye Bye---General Lee

You're a moron if think you it's about pay. The last AE put newbies as RES JFK88 FO. Hot bunk crashpad reserve to staff 3 bases in NYC=suck.

 

[On Your Six]

You're a moron if think you it's about pay. The last AE put newbies as RES JFK88 FO. Hot bunk crashpad reserve to staff 3 bases in NYC=suck.

Hi, I got hired in the last round with a lot of flow ups and I still hold DTW 320 FO, and I am now on 2nd year pay. The real reason a lot of those senior guys stayed at Mesaba was they didn't want to be an FO again, and they hope bigger planes will come down to them. Sorry, instead they get another pay cut. Not coming here was a mistake of a lifetime.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[altimaklr]

A good chunk of the upper seniority list of regional airlines are lifetime losers. They think making $95k living in MSP or MEM is great, and they enjoy being the big fish in the small, polluted, little pond. Delta isn't missing much with these guys.