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Wow General you really are the dumbest f&@k on this webboard. We did start with scope ( you should try taking your own advice). That's why our planes say Mesaba not big sky. You are welcome on that history lesson. But the fact you think you can scope a hub is the most retarded thing you have ever said. ( that's in a pile of 15000 retarded posts so really that's pretty impressive) So by your own brilliant rationalization why didn't you just scope all the cities delta flies. Your job will really be safe then. So go ahead and insert lame cut down on my overnight, gloat about your overnight, and fake family. That's what you normally do next, right? Loser
 
You have to feel sorry for the guy. I saw a delta pilot on flightinfo in the terminal. I said "whoa..you aren't GL are you?" his response was "that guy is a big black eye for DL pilots." Harsh.
 
The thing that pisses me off is that there are remotely intelligent and informative discussions that begin to form on here and then you have this jackass jump in and say a whole bunch of stupid, unprofessional, argument provoking crap. Within moments, a thread turns to worthless trash.

I would try and find that setting to ignore him, but then I would just be reading threads that have continual "you are stupid" responses and it will just make it more confusing.
 
I think you guys just don't like hearing what he has to say because it doesn't coincide with your world view. If he weren't such a prolific poster you wouldn't be so concerned with him.

It might be time to just accept that and move on. Really no point in getting all upset about somebody else's posts.
 
I think you guys just don't like hearing what he has to say because it doesn't coincide with your world view. If he weren't such a prolific poster you wouldn't be so concerned with him.

It might be time to just accept that and move on. Really no point in getting all upset about somebody else's posts.

Lol, you must not read his stuff, his posts don't coincide with this axial plane.

95% of the time he just trolls for trolling sake. However, at some point we hit on some topic he wants to make a contribution on. General/OYS is so removed from reality that he (inadvertently) spews out crap that makes no sense, everyone calls him on his mind numbing crap, and he covers it by going back into Trolling Mode as if that was his intention the whole time. It's sad for him and annoying for us.

I enjoy his antics as much as anyone, but now you realize the guy behind the keyboard is ranked lower on industry knowledge than my niece, and suddenly the pontifical and self aggrandizing posts become unendurable. It begs the rebuttal.
 
Wow General you really are the dumbest f&@k on this webboard. We did start with scope ( you should try taking your own advice). That's why our planes say Mesaba not big sky. You are welcome on that history lesson. But the fact you think you can scope a hub is the most retarded thing you have ever said. ( that's in a pile of 15000 retarded posts so really that's pretty impressive) So by your own brilliant rationalization why didn't you just scope all the cities delta flies. Your job will really be safe then. So go ahead and insert lame cut down on my overnight, gloat about your overnight, and fake family. That's what you normally do next, right? Loser

Looks like he is a lot smarter than you are, he's not at Mesaba/Pinnacle. You're in for some turbulent times coming up here. Comair was owned by Delta during their strike, and they could have gotten better scope had they fought for it, but as Lee states they went for the money, which was cut later in BK.


Godspeed!


OYS
 
Genitial Lee you are a double threat kinda guy. Bi polar and narcisstic! Takes a real "special" kind of person to hit up both.

Now I know you are the same person, because there aren't two people in the whole world that are stupid enough to believe regional flying can be scoped.

You got me, congrats on trollin!
 
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You know what else I just figured out? On your six as your alter ego, just like you like your guy F/A''s
On your six!
so closet gay, bi-polar, the over-compensation, the narcissism.

You are dealing with a lot.

I feel bad for picking on the retarded kid.

I remember why I don't post on here very often.
 
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You know what else I just figured out? On your six as your alter ego, just like you like your guy F/A''s
On your six!
so closet gay, bi-polar, the over-compensation, the narcissism.

You are dealing with a lot.

I feel bad for picking on the retarded kid.

I remember why I don't post on here very often.

You are losing it, literally. Stress MUCH? Peronal attacks just shows you have little confidence in your stance. Both Comair and ASA were owned directly by Delta and could have negotiated for many things, but they always seemed to go for the money, thinking their flying at their respective hubs was safe. That
turned out to be wrong. I think anyone who thinks about it, including GL and myself, could reasonably deduce that. Lessons learned unfortunately. Speaking of learning, I have learned that you upset easily and don't want to relive reality, so I am bailing out of this crazy thread. Maybe you should take up smoking to relax!


Godspeed!


OYS
 
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including GL and myself,

chatting to yourself AGAIN Jenny putz?????

so I am bailing out of this crazy thread. OYS[/QUOTE]

yeah sure ya are Jennyleigh, you'll be back!

are you done with that bag of pork rinds already????
 
Speaking of smoking, what the hell are you smoking? Oh wait, I don't want to know.

At least your other posts are in a coherent, yet retarded thought. That last one was hilarious. You are getting so mad that you forgot which personality you were posting under.

Trust me I would never stress about anything on a web board, especially from you.
I find your posts amusing, but you need to be called out on this one.
So I will ask one more time:

How exactly do regionals (who have no control over anything) scope flying from delta?

Still waiting.....Send one of your other personalities if need be.
 
Factual error

Looks like he is a lot smarter than you are, he's not at Mesaba/Pinnacle. You're in for some turbulent times coming up here. Comair was owned by Delta during their strike, and they could have gotten better scope had they fought for it, but as Lee states they went for the money, which was cut later in BK.


Godspeed!


OYS


Comair was not owned by Delta during their strike.
 
Speaking of smoking, what the hell are you smoking? Oh wait, I don't want to know.

At least your other posts are in a coherent, yet retarded thought. That last one was hilarious. You are getting so mad that you forgot which personality you were posting under.

Trust me I would never stress about anything on a web board, especially from you.
I find your posts amusing, but you need to be called out on this one.
So I will ask one more time:

How exactly do regionals (who have no control over anything) scope flying from delta?


Still waiting.....Send one of your other personalities if need be.


Alright, I return to answer your dumb post. Comair was owned by DL, but they should have fought for DCI flying, percentage wise, in their CVG hub. Not DL flying, DCI flying. Problem was they never thought they would be nearly pushed out of CVG, into JFK, and then into DTW. They had a shot to fight for it, they were negotiating directly with their owner after their strike, DL.



Godspeed!


OYS
 
Pinnacle Airlines Corp. (PNCL), the regional carrier that flies for Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) and others, has a “high probability” of filing for bankruptcy, according to a Maxim Group LLC analyst.
“We do not see any indicator of a significant turnaround over the next 12 months” and Pinnacle may run out of cash first, the New York-based analyst, Ray Neidl, wrote in a note to clients today. Pinnacle had $82 million in unrestricted cash on Sept. 30, according to a company statement on Nov. 3.
Pinnacle said on Dec. 8 it was seeking concessions from airline partners, aircraft lessors, debt holders and employees to lower costs. The Memphis, Tennessee-based carrier hired Seabury Group LLC, Barclays Capital (BARC) and the law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP to help with those efforts. The airline fell 23 percent that day in Nasdaq trading, the most in almost three years.
The shares slid 8.9 percent to 97 cents at 4 p.m. in New York trading, extending the drop so far this year to 88 percent. Pinnacle declined to comment on its plans beyond the remarks in its Dec. 8 statement, a company spokesman, Joe Williams, said today in an e-mail.
Neidl, who made a “sell’ recommendation on Pinnacle, began his career in the aviation industry at American Airlines, where he held financial and planning positions, according to Maxim’s website. He has since covered the industry for two decades as an analyst, and was co-author of ‘‘Airline Odyssey: The Airline Industry’s Turbulent Flight into the Future” (McGraw-Hill, 1995).
Cost Dispute
The company relied on Delta for 75 percent of its revenue for the nine months ended Sept. 30, and 20 percent came from United Continental Holdings Inc., (UAL) according to a regulatory filing.
Pinnacle and Delta have disputed whether certain costs for maintaining aircraft costs must be reimbursed by Delta. Pinnacle posted $4.5 million less in revenue in the first nine months of this year as a result of the disagreement and a “tentative settlement,” according to a regulatory filing.
The company also had higher crew costs such as overtime pay and overnight hotel bills. In part, that’s because schedule changes by Delta increased expenses by $12.7 million in the first nine months of 2011. Pinnacle had a net loss of $8.8 million in that period, compared with a profit of $17 million a year earlier.
Pinnacle operated 141 planes for Delta as of December 2010, while its Colgan unit operated 46 planes for United and nine aircraft for US Airways Group Inc., (LCC) according to Pinnacle’s annual report.
To contact the reporter on this story: Mary Jane Credeur in Atlanta at [email protected].
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Ed Dufner at [email protected].

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...lity-of-bankruptcy-maxim-says.html?cmpid=yhoo
 
Aviation Daily said DL owned 41 CR9s used by Mesaba. Now they are at PNCL, but those particular planes are probably still owned by DL.


Godspeed!


OYS

I'm talking about the originals airplanes that are bought by Pinnacle when they had the agreement with Delta in 2007, This doesn't count the orignal 36 from NWA and the rest that came from Freedom.

MEMPHIS, TN, Apr 30, 2007 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX News Network) -- Pinnacle Airlines Corp. (NASDAQ: PNCL) ("Pinnacle") announced today that it has entered into a new capacity purchase agreement with Delta Air Lines to operate 16 CRJ-900 aircraft as a Delta Connection carrier. Pinnacle currently expects that the aircraft will be operated by its wholly owned regional jet subsidiary, Pinnacle Airlines, Inc.

Under the agreement, Pinnacle will directly acquire and finance the aircraft. Pinnacle will take delivery of the aircraft between November 2007 and July 2008, with scheduled service as a Delta Connection carrier beginning in December 2007. The term of the agreement is for ten years.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=131072&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=992693&highlight=
 

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