CAL DEN and ORD bases???

[Uncle Bort]

These bases won't happen until a JCBA. If the company wants them bad enough, maybe it will be motivation to finally negotiate.

 

[list2002]

Well, according to Cpt. X a JCBA is NOT necessary after December 31st. And ALPA has no say in the matter per the definition of "parties." Another oversight? Every "trump card" ALPA seems to have up it's negotiating sleeve seems to dissolve when said time occurs. Cpt. Moak said "the past is the past" but ALPA's past at CAL sure shows a trend. Granted this is my first contract to go through here, and under complicated circumstances, but I don't think I'm alone in saying ALPA's a## is really on the line with this one.

 

[ATRCA]

These bases won't happen until a JCBA. If the company wants them bad enough, maybe it will be motivation to finally negotiate.

Wrong. They will happen.

 

[densoo]

Posted by Uncle Bort
These bases won't happen until a JCBA. If the company wants them bad enough, maybe it will be motivation to finally negotiate.

Wrong. They will happen.

And they still won't negotiate.

 

[Uncle Bort]

Is 47 yrs old to late to apply to SWA?

 

[whatitdoing?]

A JCBA isn't required to open new bases after the Transition Agreement expires at the end of this year. Another blunder from ALPA....along with Profit Sharing....and more to come.

 

[list2002]

Whatitdoing, the past is the past, come on now.

 

[mamba20]

I can't wait to get ALPO off the property. Theyve done NOTHING but hurt pilots.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Not entirely correct:

Section 13
Termination of this Transition and Process Agreement
13-A. Partial Termination. Unless the Parties agree otherwise, the Airline Parties may jointly terminate the provisions of Sections 4-D (Domiciles), 7-A (Furlough with regard to United Pilots only), 7-C (Flying Ratios), 7-D (Domicile and Base Protection), and 9 (ALPA Travel), individually or collectively, at any time on or after December 31, 2011, if the parties have not reached a tentative agreement on a JCBA by that date.
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Section 1​

Definitions used in this Transition and Process Agreement
1-C. Airline Party. Continental, UAL, United.
1-S. Party. An Airline Party or ALPA.

So, how does UAL announce the opening of a new base?

 

[densoo]

So, how does UAL announce the opening of a new base?

They already showed up on CAL pilots' BES bid screen--for about an hour. Last time that happened was Jan for LAX. Had crews in there by May. This time it was 737s in Chicago and Denver.