CAL DEN and ORD bases???

[list2002]

And we know that management does whatever they want, and if we even think slowdown we are getting sued. Can't wait to commute to ORD.

 

[eaglesview]

And we know that management does whatever they want, and if we even think slowdown we are getting sued. Can't wait to commute to ORD.

Easy commute. Welcome aboard, We arrive early, real early. Watch them fuel flows.

 

[Jetjockey]

Very full flights IAH-ORD-IAH, lots of CAL, UAL commuters. Not an easy commute by any standards.

 

[1x1]

EWR-ORD commute has become increasingly difficult since Smilton.

 

[ForgedBlade]

Very full flights IAH-ORD-IAH, lots of CAL, UAL commuters. Not an easy commute by any standards.

That's because Smisek and all his henchmen still are "commuting". Then again, when they are all getting an extra $15,000 per month for those brutal living expenses, they could care less.

 

[Jetjockey]

That's because Smisek and all his henchmen still are "commuting". Then again, when they are all getting an extra $15,000 per month for those brutal living expenses, they could care less.

Yeah, picking your seat positive space first class is tiring. I have seen as many as 35-40 positive space. Good luck getting a SA seat.

 

[Ex737Driver]

The airbuses are going to IAH to fly central and south america because of the containerized cargo capacity. We all know those flights always carry a lot of cargo.

They can fly like the 767 does on a through flight but mgmt cannot place a A320 base in IAH until JCBA.

 

[densoo]

They can fly like the 767 does on a through flight but mgmt cannot place a A320 base in IAH until JCBA.

Can they operate them as thru flights? As a kind of virtual base.

 

[list2002]

I hope you're right about JCBA being necessary. I'm hearing otherwise.

 

[catIIIc]

TPA expires at the end of the year that prohibits any new bases other then Lax. After the first of the year airbuses can be based in IAH.

 

[Jetjockey]

They can fly like the 767 does on a through flight but mgmt cannot place a A320 base in IAH until JCBA.

I thought that was the case........not true. Call your rep. When the Transition Agreement expires, so goes domiciles restrictions and a few other sections in that agreement.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Time to be released. Time to strike!

 

[Ex737Driver]

TPA expires at the end of the year that prohibits any new bases other then Lax. After the first of the year airbuses can be based in IAH.

The TPA does modify certain sections of both CBA's as defined in the TPA or as agreed upon by mgmt and ALPA (learned something new). There is no expiration of the TPA unless BOTH mgmt and APLA agree to do so. If both parties agree to do so, that can be accomplished after DEC 31, 2011. The entire TPA can be terminated any time both mgmt and APLA agree to do so. If no changes are requested by either party and/or agreed upon, after DEC 31, 2011 the TPA will continue as is.

Now, do you really see APLA agreeing to give mgmt the ability to modify section 4d about pilot bases?

 

[Ex737Driver]

I thought that was the case........not true. Call your rep. When the Transition Agreement expires, so goes domiciles restrictions and a few other sections in that agreement.

Again the TPA cannot expire without agreement between both mgmt and APLA.

 

[Captain X]

Again the TPA cannot expire without agreement between both mgmt and APLA.

Not entirely correct:

Section 13
Termination of this Transition and Process Agreement
13-A. Partial Termination. Unless the Parties agree otherwise, the Airline Parties may jointly terminate the provisions of Sections 4-D (Domiciles), 7-A (Furlough with regard to United Pilots only), 7-C (Flying Ratios), 7-D (Domicile and Base Protection), and 9 (ALPA Travel), individually or collectively, at any time on or after December 31, 2011, if the parties have not reached a tentative agreement on a JCBA by that date.
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Section 1​

Definitions used in this Transition and Process Agreement
1-C. Airline Party. Continental, UAL, United.
1-S. Party. An Airline Party or ALPA.