Virgin America

[Kezwick]

Curious how you guys like it there? How's the sked for newhires? Is reserve long? Good rules for that? How many days off can you expect on reserve? Do most pilots there commute? Just trying to get a feel.

 

[Chairman]

Things are slowly improving although not as fast as most would like. Most of the trips are very efficient and for allow for jr pilots to hold 17-19 days off. Reserve right now has been about 9 months for pilots. Things are going to move pretty quick till next summer then the airplanes stop for about a year. This could mean a lengthy stay on reserve. They try to make reserve commutable for the most part.

 

[hyflyin]

This could mean a lengthy stay on reserve.

It sure will be and when some of the current issues were brought to the SFO base chief about reserve his response was "thats how it was at USAIR for my 17 years on reserve". A real forward thinker, yes? Things better start changing soon or Dave will be making a video for us.

Can't believe we haven't learned anything from JetBlue!

Just sayin

 

[Chairman]

It sure will be and when some of the current issues were brought to the SFO base chief about reserve his response was "thats how it was at USAIR for my 17 years on reserve". A real forward thinker, yes? Things better start changing soon or Dave will be making a video for us.

Can't believe we haven't learned anything from JetBlue!

Just sayin

Totally Agree

 

[Fubijaakr]

Great place if you want to work for substandard wages and FARs for your work rules.

 

[tzskipper]

It sure will be and when some of the current issues were brought to the SFO base chief about reserve his response was "thats how it was at USAIR for my 17 years on reserve". A real forward thinker, yes? Things better start changing soon or Dave will be making a video for us.

Can't believe we haven't learned anything from JetBlue!

Just sayin

Anyone know what the old Airways reserve "rules" were (from the '90's)?

S

 

[N813CA]

don't Virgin to JetBlue. You are wrong.. Sorry but true. I will only give one example. PAY rates.

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

Great place if you want to work for substandard wages and FARs for your work rules.

Beatings commence on every other Thursday. Grog is handed out only if we meet quarterly incentive goals. We sacrifice virgin Virgins only on full moons. This policy has been strictly enforced. Dogs and cats living together......MASS HYSTERIA!

 

[hyflyin]

Beatings commence on every other Thursday. Grog is handed out only if we meet quarterly incentive goals. We sacrifice virgin Virgins only on full moons. This policy has been strictly enforced. Dogs and cats living together......MASS HYSTERIA!

Exactly!

 

[cmrflyer]

don't Virgin to JetBlue. You are wrong.. Sorry but true. I will only give one example. PAY rates.

Dude, you were at comair when we got the pay cuts. Delta used the jetblue 190 pay rates to show the judge how over paid comair was.
$88 an hour for a 12 year 190 captain!
That was less than four years ago. Your very proud of the new contract, but seem to forget your old contract under cut the regionals by about $30, for a much larger aircraft.

 

[cbrown1]

Do you still need an internal rec to get an interview? Or are they interviewing people off the street?

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Do you still need an internal rec to get an interview? Or are they interviewing people off the street?

Street people have been just as successful as internal recommends.

First step after applying is the online eval, called Previsor, the great equalizer. If you pass that you are ranked for interview. If you interview it is about 40 to 60% getting into the class pool. You are ranked again for being called out of the pool. We are about halfway through a hiring push, then about a year of no growth.

Good luck!

 

[cbrown1]

Street people have been just as successful as internal recommends.

First step after applying is the online eval, called Previsor, the great equalizer. If you pass that you are ranked for interview. If you interview it is about 40 to 60% getting into the class pool. You are ranked again for being called out of the pool. We are about halfway through a hiring push, then about a year of no growth.

Good luck!

Are people getting on without 1000 tpic?
I'm short in that department. I'm probably to late for this round.

 

[hyflyin]

Are people getting on without 1000 tpic?
I'm short in that department. I'm probably to late for this round.

Yes they are and you never know. If your interested put your stuff in.

 

[hyflyin]

don't Virgin to JetBlue. You are wrong.. Sorry but true. I will only give one example. PAY rates.

Both are the same in that neither have representation or are contributing anything to our industry as a whole. No one was comparing work rules, pay or anything else. Jetblue and Virgin, IMHO, are stepping stones to another job worth having.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Jetblue and Virgin, IMHO, are stepping stones to another job worth having.

The problem is by flying narrowbody equipment for a non-Union carrier with substandard wages/work rules, YOU lower the bar. YOU make it harder for US to raise wages and improve work rules.

By undercutting the jobs worth having you're helping to ensure they won't be there when you want to step up.

Think about it.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The problem is by flying narrowbody equipment for a non-Union carrier with substandard wages/work rules, YOU lower the bar. YOU make it harder for US to raise wages and improve work rules.

By undercutting the jobs worth having you're helping to ensure they won't be there when you want to step up.

Think about it.

Just whom is it that has been assigned the task of subjectively determining the group responsible for setting this arbitrary wage rate or which job is worth having?

Is it you?

What if an individual has different needs, wants, career desires, etc. that don't tend to jive with your narrow and selfish interpretation of what others need to do to provide you with what you need?

Do doctors go to medical school to enter their field to uphold some mythical bar defined by others and largely by economic metrics and rules of a bygone era? Do lawyers?

Believe me I get where you are coming from but your thinking is somewhat rather anachronistic in the modern world, economy, and certainly the deregulated industry in which we toil.

I hate to burst the bubble of salty old dog, but you need to see the world for what it is. Coming on here and picking on others for making different choices which don't ignore the economic realities of the world is waste of your time and annoying as can be to the rest of us.

You need a hobby. Get of the internet and go live your life. The whole crusader thing is getting a bit old.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Sorry you're too lazy or stupid to stand up for the profession, Pogue.

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

The whole crusader thing is getting a bit old.

Someone has to be Don Quixote around here!

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Sorry you're too lazy or stupid to stand up for the profession, Pogue.

That is rather ironic Fubi. I thought that leftist National Worker Party Che Guevara types like you were support the lazy and stupid like me in the struggle to compel the corporatist system to capitulate to our needs.

Instead you choose to insult a fellow proletariat you know nothing about.