129 AA pilots retired Oct 1

[aa73]

Massive chaos here at AA: widebody flying being reduced, pulling out of markets due to massive retirements, losing revenue, they just cancelled the 1st of two November recall classes due to training backlog from retirements...

and... wait for it....

... now they want relief to "protect the schedule!" YGTBSM. No Contract, No Relief!!

 

[Patriot328]

I hope APA tell's em to ******************** off!

 

[Mamma]

Careful not to kill the golden goose!

 

[steveg]

The golden goose has been ********************ting all over the egg for 8 years. I don't think the egg cares anymore if it dies.

 

[aa73]

I hope APA tell's em to ******************** off!

Patriot, my friend... Amen! But what we're all worried about is the wording from the APA press release... "we're currently studying management's relief proposal...." YGTBSM!! Tell 'em to pound sand! Can't believe they actually said that.

Apparently our APA BOD can pass a resolution approving it without a vote.

NO CONTRACT, NO RELIEF!

 

[Mamma]

The golden goose has been ********************ting all over the egg for 8 years. I don't think the egg cares anymore if it dies.

OK then. Arpey ranks among the worst CEOs along with Tilden and Lorenzo to ever run an airline. The sad thing is, if AA goes down in flames, all the employees get screwed while the executive staff get promoted to bigger and better jobs.

 

[Patriot328]

Patriot, my friend... Amen! But what we're all worried about is the wording from the APA press release... "we're currently studying management's relief proposal...." YGTBSM!! Tell 'em to pound sand! Can't believe they actually said that.

Apparently our APA BOD can pass a resolution approving it without a vote.

NO CONTRACT, NO RELIEF!

Well I hope they study it while sitting on the throne, then promptly wipe their ass with it, throw it in the toilet, and flush away...

 

[macdu]

Only 129! I was hoping for 329!

 

[GuppyWN]

I think somebody retired today on the ORD/MIA flight! Hope he's OK.

Gup

 

[The Prussian]

1. Admired AA for not persuing the gov't protection route...keeping the pensions alive was admirable.

2. Arpey's move to pay off his managers (twice!!) without acknowledging the heroic efforts of his flight crews and rank and file was a HUGE MISTAKE...I can not emphasize that move enough, let alone comprehend what was going on in his head!!!!!!

3. Bankruptcy now seems inevitable, witness the aforementioned retirements.

4. I hope he's OK, too. (and it's not Arpey I'm referring to.)

 

[LaGarbage Man]

Hey is that you PW ? (aka. Patriot328)

 

[Patriot328]

Hey is that you PW ? (aka. Patriot328)

Hmmm nope, but I was in LGA...

 

[LaGarbage Man]

I had to give it a try. Not to many of ACA'rs that I know went off to American. PW and BL are the first two that come to mind but I could be guessing for awhile. I am sure I know you though. I opened that place up and turned the lights off went they sent us packing. Ohh I almost forgot the one ACA'r that I hear most of the American pilots wish had not come over. Of course he is with the dark side now. JB ring a bell ?

 

[aa73]

PW is alive and well here at AA.

JB, no clue who that guy is.

Regards, 73 (aka JP) ex Blue Ridge

 

[LearLove]

PW and BL are the first two that come to mind but I could be guessing for awhile.

Are you refering to the BL who lives outside Doylestown, PA?

 

[laker4284]

3. Bankruptcy now seems inevitable, witness the aforementioned retirements.

I thought the retirements stemmed from a rollback in lump sum pension payouts, much as was the case with Delta. Am I wrong on that?

American will struggle as long as it is saddled with those defined benefit pensions. It was great they held on to them, but they are a big burden at a time when their competitors are not carrying a similar load.

But bankruptcy? They have plenty of cash and airlines historically take a very long time to die.

 

[GogglesPisano]

But bankruptcy? They have plenty of cash and airlines historically take a very long time to die.

Bankruptcy is just another page in the playbook they teach at B-school. Death has nothing to do with it.

 

[LaGarbage Man]

Are you refering to the BL who lives outside Doylestown, PA?

Yep that is the one and only. He and I were 2/3 rds of the ABE J32 Capt. roster. The other 1/3 rd is JB's girlfriend now wife living down in the Big D sipping a cool drink next to her pool. Another hint for JB is that he used his powers for good (I think it was the Beige book contract ) but now uses his powers for the evil empire in headquarters not the pilot group. Are you also ex ACA Learlove ? It looks like we are both part of the same dysfunctional family now.

 

[aa73]

Ohhh, THAT JB!! Umm yeah, that would be a good, good riddance... Funny, everyone loved flying with him at ACA. He is a PUPster here... $$$

BL is doing great, just ran into him a couple months ago. We are both based in JFK.

 

[LaGarbage Man]

Ohhh, THAT JB!! Umm yeah, that would be a good, good riddance... Funny, everyone loved flying with him at ACA. He is a PUPster here... $$$

BL is doing great, just ran into him a couple months ago. We are both based in JFK.

Excellent to hear, Be sure to tell him BB says hello. As for Jeff, Yeah he was a great guy at ACA and did well by the pilots when he was in the union but it is disappointing (and maybe a bit naive on my part) to see that everyone has a $ amount that they will sell out for.