JetBlue class dates

[JJthejetplane]

SIDE BAR: Had a guy commuting home the other day from JFK to SAN...October 2010 new hire.. Super nice guy.... After introductions and welcoming him with the usual banter, he had shared his dissapointment and confusion at being awarded reserve for August. He had essentially held a line two months after IOE.... Point is: the time will come again of stagnated hiring and growth....those that are new will endure the plight of Crew Services and ZERO accountability to the butchered FSM we all have to live with. Good quality of life then will turn to endentured servitude now!!!!!!!!!!!! Bad work rules and no way to change them............

I only know of one guy (initials DH) from the OCT 2010 class that would do the JFK-SAN commute, and he was awarded a line for August. I looked at everybody else's line from that class, and each had a line except for a guy that just went to MCO, but he is dead last on the list there, so I don't think he would be surprised to be on reserve. However, I voted YES!

 

[pilot772]

I`m glad to hear that....And trust me, I am very happy knowing there are new guys and gals coming onto the property! I have become a little cynical from reading boards such as this one.... and should probably stop! The Captain I am flying with also reads these threads and he was the individual who asked the question concerning PIC Turbine qualifications.

There are many pilots at this company who initially believed in the Direct Relationship approach "myself included" the company professes is the only way for JB to succeed. Now... Those same pilots "myself included" have become the proponents for a Collective Bargaining Agreement. With that said, it would be my sincerest hope that anyone new coming onto property would please understand and give serious consideration to the people who have been here more than a couple of years. Not patronizing here: A 6 month new hire vote is as equal to someone who has been here for 4-6-8-10 years........ But a 6th month new hire still has probably not allowed the full scope of issues being debated to sink in!!! Just my two cents!!

SIDE BAR: Had a guy commuting home the other day from JFK to SAN...October 2010 new hire.. Super nice guy.... After introductions and welcoming him with the usual banter, he had shared his dissapointment and confusion at being awarded reserve for August. He had essentially held a line two months after IOE.... Point is: the time will come again of stagnated hiring and growth....those that are new will endure the plight of Crew Services and ZERO accountability to the butchered FSM we all have to live with. Good quality of life then will turn to endentured servitude now!!!!!!!!!!!! Bad work rules and no way to change them............

Been here about 6 months I was a Mesa Captain at one time and am also furloughed from NetJets. I voted yes and so did 3 for sure maybe 4 guys in my new hire class

 

[hoover84]

Been here about 6 months I was a Mesa Captain at one time and am also furloughed from NetJets. I voted yes and so did 3 for sure maybe 4 guys in my new hire class

New standard ALAP contract with 1 year probation for new hires.....can't wait.

 

[Blue Dude]

New standard ALAP contract with 1 year probation for new hires.....can't wait.

Wouldn't this benefit the company and not the union? Why would "ALAP" want it?

 

[Flyby1206]

Wouldn't this benefit the company and not the union? Why would "ALAP" want it?

Higher payrates for everyone at the top of the payscale, of course.

Currently $47/hr for 1st yr pay. Make it $40/hr 1st yr and then we have some moolah to distribute to the guys at the top. Isnt that the standard 'eat your young, pay your dues' type of contract?

 

[Turbojet23]

Starting to think my background check is hung up. Guys are getting class dates that interviewed after me. I have been asking around but none of my JB contacts can give me any info other than the "training department is backed up so just hang tight". I guess I will continue to wait. Kinda frustrating but what are you gonna do.

Tomorrow will be 12 weeks since phase 2 notification.

P.S. When (if) the major carriers really start ramping up hiring in the next few years I really hope JB shortens this process otherwise people aren't gonna wait if someone else offers them a job first. Just a thought.

 

[Blue Dude]

Higher payrates for everyone at the top of the payscale, of course.

Currently $47/hr for 1st yr pay. Make it $40/hr 1st yr and then we have some moolah to distribute to the guys at the top. Isnt that the standard 'eat your young, pay your dues' type of contract?

First year pay has already been lowered to $47 (by the company), but that's not what I was referring to. (I won't even go into the ridiculous initial pay for the E190, for which the justification was "You'll all be A320 captains, so why do you care?" The quote was by David Neeleman.)

What I meant was: Who benefits from a probationary period, i.e. new hires not union members for one year and not subject to parts of the contract regarding termination?

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Higher payrates for everyone at the top of the payscale, of course.

Currently $47/hr for 1st yr pay. Make it $40/hr 1st yr and then we have some moolah to distribute to the guys at the top. Isnt that the standard 'eat your young, pay your dues' type of contract?

The company already lowered the pay and I had absolutely NOTHING to say about it.
I was hired at $56 an hour.
How much is it now?

 

[Flyby1206]

What I meant was: Who benefits from a probationary period, i.e. new hires not union members for one year and not subject to parts of the contract regarding termination?

I agree with you there, but then why do 99% of carriers have probationary periods? Is it a trade off to the company allowing them to fire whoever they want within the 1st yr in exchange for pay/benefits for others at the top?

 

[Flyby1206]

The company already lowered the pay and I had absolutely NOTHING to say about it.
I was hired at $56 an hour.
How much is it now?

What was top CA pay when it was $56/hr 1st yr? Want to go back to that payscale?