Thanks AirTran MEC!

[momalley81]

This thread is not directed at the professional pilots of AirTran, it's directed at the unprofessional union leadership you have.

Thanks AirTran MEC for going to Dallas and then coming back to your pilots and misrepresenting the proposal to your constituents. Thank you for leaking information about the current agreement in principle and getting thousands of pilots spooled up unnecessarily so you can engage for the last time in petty ALPA politics and bull$hit. Thanks for considering yourself before your pilots. Thank you for your feeble attempt at screwing the deal and trying to measure your pilots' sentiment through a crude method - misrepresent the deal and see who's pissed. Thank you for showing my CEO what a bunch of amateurs you are. Thank you for revealing how ungrateful you are for your new found riches and guarantees if you agree to the deal. Thank you for demonstrating why our company, going back to the seventies, HATES ALPA and WILL NOT be bullied, bargained with nor intimidated by the DFR machine that is ALPA.

Your rumors and misstatements have spun people into the ceiling unnecessarily, all you had to do was wait. Wait for the process to work. Wait for final language and instead, you purposely tried to undermine the admirable work of your merger committee and my negotiating committee. Your team signs a deal - SIGNS THE DEAL - then you lawyer up with that DFR buffoon Dan "Crybaby" Katz and bring him to ATL? What is he there for, other than collecting $750/hour to convince you that he can get you more?

My friend at AirTran talks to me about the bs on your side of the tracks and I am appalled your pilots permit that level of BS. Is there NO leadership in MKE, MCO or ATL? You guys recall more people than I carry in a month. For fluck's sake, show me someone over there with a little integrity. I know plenty of AAI pilots and cannot fathom them allowing this crap to continue.

Stay classy ATN-MEC!

 

[n52gp]

call the black kettle a pot. u stay classy brother!

 

[Dan Roman]

This thread is not directed at the professional pilots of AirTran, it's directed at the unprofessional union leadership you have.

Thanks AirTran MEC for going to Dallas and then coming back to your pilots and misrepresenting the proposal to your constituents. Thank you for leaking information about the current agreement in principle and getting thousands of pilots spooled up unnecessarily so you can engage for the last time in petty ALPA politics and bull$hit. Thanks for considering yourself before your pilots. Thank you for your feeble attempt at screwing the deal and trying to measure your pilots' sentiment through a crude method - misrepresent the deal and see who's pissed. Thank you for showing my CEO what a bunch of amateurs you are. Thank you for revealing how ungrateful you are for your new found riches and guarantees if you agree to the deal. Thank you for demonstrating why our company, going back to the seventies, HATES ALPA and WILL NOT be bullied, bargained with nor intimidated by the DFR machine that is ALPA.

Your rumors and misstatements have spun people into the ceiling unnecessarily, all you had to do was wait. Wait for the process to work. Wait for final language and instead, you purposely tried to undermine the admirable work of your merger committee and my negotiating committee. Your team signs a deal - SIGNS THE DEAL - then you lawyer up with that DFR buffoon Dan "Crybaby" Katz and bring him to ATL? What is he there for, other than collecting $750/hour to convince you that he can get you more?

My friend at AirTran talks to me about the bs on your side of the tracks and I am appalled your pilots permit that level of BS. Is there NO leadership in MKE, MCO or ATL? You guys recall more people than I carry in a month. For fluck's sake, show me someone over there with a little integrity. I know plenty of AAI pilots and cannot fathom them allowing this crap to continue.

Stay classy ATN-MEC!

Says the guy trying to put his own spin out there on a public web board.

 

[bmpilot]

Who is an AT guy but trying to pretend he is not.

 

[FIREMAN]

The “deal” is a POS and should never had made it out of the room. Now some of the MEC are doing what they were elected to do. Thirty percent loss of seniority with a false fence is unacceptable! That is a 5 year loss.

 

[yoyoma]

youve already seen "the deal"? send me a copy please

 

[Max Powers]

the “deal” is a pos and should never had made it out of the room. Now some of the mec are doing what they were elected to do. Thirty percent loss of seniority with a false fence is unacceptable! That is a 5 year loss.

bingoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!we have a winner!!!

 

[yoyoma]

yeah i agree! 30% loss of seniority isnt even close to enough! go get em boys!

 

[Quiet Flight]

What happened to all of that "my MC speaks for me" bs?

Just keep talkin...

 

[kwick]

You should have the patience to just let this go to arbitration to get a fair deal.

You are trying to coerce the AT guys into accepting a "Bad Deal" , by holding
the "Nuclear Option" over their heads.

Even after any deal is agreed to, the AT pilots can sue for a better deal
because of the threats by SW.

 

[jonjuan]

You are trying to coerce the AT guys into accepting a "Bad Deal" , by holding
the "Nuclear Option" over their heads.

Ya think? Btw, Arby's just got rid of the Roast Beef" from its name.

 

[GuppyWN]

This is better than Jerry Springer!

Suing Gary Kelly because you agreed to his deal? Priceless!

Gup

 

[redflyer65]

Wow, it is heating up. The whole thing was negotiated in good faith, if you don't like it..then vote it down.

 

[kwick]

Because of the SW pilots fear of a fair settlement with arbitration, this thing
could lead to years of litigation.

 

[kwick]

This is better than Jerry Springer!

Suing Gary Kelly because you agreed to his deal? Priceless!

Gup

In Texas, it might be legal to torture someone into a confession.

But, in the rest of the country an agreement or confession
based on coercion is not legally binding.

It's like someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you
to sell your house to them for $10.

 

[Red Baron]

In Texas, it might be legal to torture someone into a confession.

But, in the rest of the country an agreement or confession
based on coercion is not legally binding.

It's like someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you
to sell your house to them for $10.

Ok, that is beyond ridiculous. It's comical.

 

[Tripower455]

In Texas, it might be legal to torture someone into a confession.

But, in the rest of the country an agreement or confession
based on coercion is not legally binding.

It's like someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you
to sell your house to them for $10.

Wow..... Just.... WOW!


You are on the brink of by far the best thing to happen to your career, and you really think like this?

Vote it down. PLEASE!

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

In Texas, it might be legal to torture someone into a confession.

But, in the rest of the country an agreement or confession
based on coercion is not legally binding.

It's like someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you
to sell your house to them for $10.

You're sort of correct. Texas is a "right-to-work" state, which means that you have the right to work for Southwest if you so choose, or, you have the right to quit and take a better job elsewhere with no obligation to your current employer whatsoever - you don't even have to give a two week notice if you don't want to.

 

[kwick]

Ok, that is beyond ridiculous. It's comical.

Coercion is grounds for seeking the rescission or cancellation
of a contract.

It happens to be the law.

 

[Flycatcher99]

Coercion is grounds for seeking the rescission or cancellation
of a contract.

It happens to be the law.

I agree. This is comical. Please keep it up, kwick...it's the most entertained I've been by this whole process.