UCon contract?

[PBRstreetgang]

This is gonna be interesting. Talked to a couple of UAL guys in the security line, word is to get DAL type contract they will have to give up 90 seaters......... and these guys thought it was OK.
Amazing!
PBR

 

[AA717driver]

Ask an AA pilot about "We don't want that flying anyway.".

After all the B.S. over the past 15 years, WTF is wrong with people who still want to give up something?

TC

 

[Jar Jar]

"Where you stand depends on where you sit"

I'm comfy in my widebody, live in base and have never ridden on one of those little RJ things. I just want a raise.

The next generation of pilots does not matter to me, I got mine!

 

[StopNTSing]

This is gonna be interesting. Talked to a couple of UAL guys in the security line, word is to get DAL type contract they will have to give up 90 seaters......... and these guys thought it was OK.
Amazing!
PBR

Couple of thoughts:

1) If this comes to pass, it will be VERY bad not just for United, but the ENTIRE industry.

2) What's so great about DAL's contract?

 

[GuppyWN]

2) What's so great about DAL's contract?

They've got 90 seat scope protections!

I'll never understand how any major airline pilot can justify that ANY codeshare, especially domestic codeshare, is a good thing.

Gup

 

[catIIIc]

The company already offered us DAL + 1$ and we told them to pound sand, maybe they meant DAL's 2001 contract. That still would be a no vote from me with 90 seat scope. But I am only one vote, who knows what everyone else will vote.

 

[taxicabdriver]

I haven't talked to one person yet that would be willing to take that....sounds like flame to me

 

[Homer Jay]

I haven't talked to one person yet that would be willing to take that....sounds like flame to me

I agree. I have yet to come across anyone that is willing to loosen scope. The only change to scope you'll see is that it will be tightened. You know the issue is on the forefront of everyone's mind when even the scabs agree scope is the most important issue in this contract. Sorry kiddos, but keep dreamin'. You'll never fly anything bigger unless you make the move to a major like the rest of us did.

 

[RT8VA]

They can offer any thing they want giving up scope is not an option. They can go pound sand I will work under our current contract till I retire before I vote to relax scope.

 

[Hamfighter]

Hoping for the best for Unitenetal! I NEED them to get DAL2k1 AND not give up on scope! We all do!

 

[Raoul Duke]

anything less than 76 seats can go to the regionals - that is a no brainer for the DAL contract

 

[nimtz]

Nice PBR. Either you are flaming or the UAL guys were throwing you garbage cause they wanted to mess with one of those super happy Skywest guys that is living 'rich' off their old job. I know you aren't one of those guys, but there are enough bitter guys at UAL who assume all rj guys are thrilled with their shinty jet.

 

[Mr Hat]

They will lose scope for sure.....I don't like it (even as a regional pilot) but they will lose it. Look at who's voting, a bunch of guys who are going to retire in the next 10 years and thats probably the largest block. Its noble to think that everyones on the same page but in the end, it's one pilot in his/her home checking off an X mark next to either money or convictions.

 

[JUNK YARD DOG]

"Where you stand depends on where you sit"

I'm comfy in my widebody, live in base and have never ridden on one of those little RJ things. I just want a raise.

The next generation of pilots does not matter to me, I got mine!

I think we flew together not to long ago... You F'n Scab

 

[Homer Jay]

They will lose scope for sure.....I don't like it (even as a regional pilot) but they will lose it. Look at who's voting, a bunch of guys who are going to retire in the next 10 years and thats probably the largest block. Its noble to think that everyones on the same page but in the end, it's one pilot in his/her home checking off an X mark next to either money or convictions.

The problem with your reasoning is that the negotiating committee and the MEC will not put out a TA that loosens scope. I'm telling you, it's NOT going to happen.

 

[COpilot]

I'm CO '87 hire, 30%; I know of no one north of that percentage who will agree to any scope relaxation.

The individual pilots I know at UA are '88 - '92ish hires, none of them have said anything about giving in on scope.

Regardless of what the union says about negotiating on public forums; I will stand by this, and make clear my vote (No Give in Scope) everyday in public!

 

[michael707767]

The problem with your reasoning is that the negotiating committee and the MEC will not put out a TA that loosens scope. I'm telling you, it's NOT going to happen.

Lee Moak is the ALPA national chairman. Never underestimate how much he will lean on MECs to accept scope concessions. He has never seen a scope concession he didn't like.

 

[Jetjockey]

They will lose scope for sure.....I don't like it (even as a regional pilot) but they will lose it. Look at who's voting, a bunch of guys who are going to retire in the next 10 years and thats probably the largest block. Its noble to think that everyones on the same page but in the end, it's one pilot in his/her home checking off an X mark next to either money or convictions.

Like you even have a clue of the combined demographics of the airline. PBR heard in a security line..............sack of crap flamebait.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

This is gonna be interesting. Talked to a couple of UAL guys in the security line, word is to get DAL type contract they will have to give up 90 seaters......... and these guys thought it was OK.
Amazing!
PBR

TOTAL LIE!!! This was not said by UAL guys. You either givem to us and the f'ing 70s or we shut your a$$ down in due time.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

they will lose scope for sure.....i don't like it (even as a regional pilot) but they will lose it. Look at who's voting, a bunch of guys who are going to retire in the next 10 years and thats probably the largest block. Its noble to think that everyones on the same page but in the end, it's one pilot in his/her home checking off an x mark next to either money or convictions.

another idiot post...absolutely not true!!