P180 Vs. Phenom 300 - Avantair Ad

[FLYLOW22]

Looks like a catfish, sounds like a weedwhacker.

It's a dream.

 

[rettofly]

I didn't know that. Never tried a P180... but would be very surprised to discover I would rather be landing a Citation on snow or slush.

Agree on preference for Citation on snow or slush. I've got plenty of time in both (CE550/560 and P180). 120Kt Vref with no ABS is a downside for P180. Cabin colume and appointments and noise level with very little extra time on a 1000 mile leg is a plus for P180.

 

[rettofly]

Looks like a catfish, sounds like a weedwhacker.

It's a dream.

I love that airplane. Actually, it's more like a pissed off bumblebee on takeoff.

 

[AftCG182]

Don't be such a sensitive putz. He is 100% right on what he said...some people just do not like to ride on TP's, get over it. Some would rather spend the extra cash to be in a jet.

There are two types of people. Those who are flying a prop, and those who wish they were flying a prop. Just another case of "prop envy" if you ask me.

 

[sshrae]

There are two types of people. Those who are flying a prop, and those who wish they were flying a prop. Just another case of "prop envy" if you ask me.

who cares what you fly as long as its decent equipment and pay, unfortunately there is not a turboprop out there that pays a good salary.

 

[hammer2]

who cares what you fly as long as its decent equipment and pay, unfortunately there is not a turboprop out there that pays a good salary.

+1...

 

[rajflyboy]

On the other hand ... you don't save that 20 minutes if you can't use a smaller more convenient airport.

Who would not rather land a turboprop on a contaminated or short runway than land a jet?

Many of the so called "Small Airports" are too dangerous to mess with.

 

[fischman]

Props are for boats. Hehehe

 

[glasspilot]

Does your airplane have a "rudder"?

 

[say again]

There are two types of people. Those who are flying a prop, and those who wish they were flying a prop. Just another case of "prop envy" if you ask me.

I personally loved flying a prop, the KA 300. The only thing I don't miss is the lack of APU during the summer season. It's the people in the back that usually had the comments about getting into it.

 

[CDogg]

Props are for boats. Hehehe

What he said!

 

[rettofly]

Does your airplane have a "rudder"?

Well played!:beer:

 

[AftCG182]

Props are for boats. Hehehe

Only 28 posts for that classic to pop up. Well done!

 

[fischman]

Does your airplane have a "rudder"?

Touché!!!

 

[fischman]

Only 28 posts for that classic to pop up. Well done!

I held off as long as I could.

 

[FLYLOW22]

You guys wanna cruise the lake in comfort, or would you rather skim the waves with unlce Roman in a jet boat?
















JET BOAT!!!

 

[jonjuan]

You guys wanna cruise the lake in comfort, or would you rather skim the waves with unlce Roman in a jet boat?
















JET BOAT!!!

LOL- top 10 movies all time. "Time to introduce mr. thick dkic to mr. urinal cake."

 

[AftCG182]

While killing a few hours today at TEB, I got my first look at a Phenom 300. Wow. Really. Wow. What an incredible aircraft. I can't s-talk about the Phenom 300 in good conscience, now that I've actually taken a look at it.

We've got some new props coming; they're promising 20-25 KIAS faster cruise speed, lower noise footprint, etc. They also have a new meaning that you won't see advertised: they'll keep us in the game against the 300.

The airplane was that nice. Anyway, I'm always up for a good challenge. Let's see how it plays out...

edit to add: well, it WAS missing props. Strike one!

 

[rajflyboy]

While killing a few hours today at TEB, I got my first look at a Phenom 300. Wow. Really. Wow. What an incredible aircraft. I can't s-talk about the Phenom 300 in good conscience, now that I've actually taken a look at it.

We've got some new props coming; they're promising 20-25 KIAS faster cruise speed, lower noise footprint, etc. They also have a new meaning that you won't see advertised: they'll keep us in the game against the 300.

The airplane was that nice. Anyway, I'm always up for a good challenge. Let's see how it plays out...

edit to add: well, it WAS missing props. Strike one!

300 has a really nice cabin and a clean cockpit but still has no TR's ??

I have to shake my head about this.

 

[BE40Driver]

300 does not need TRs. Max ldg wt of 16800, No wind at SL is only 2638 with a Ref speed of 117 kts.