Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan SLI!

[fowingman]

So whats the deal I hear from a few pncl pilots in the airport that they feel that the pilots of Mesaba should be stapled on the bottom of the list, or a 3:1 , or a 5:1. is this the view of a lot of people at pncl?

 

[Carl_Spackler]

Of course there is a very small group that wants a staple. I wouldn't even call them a group, more like a few random individuals. The fact of the matter is we can all want something, but it's in the arbitrators hands now and we live with the results.

 

[i fly boxes]

I love how one of these threads comes up every once in a while for no reason what so ever. There are a few pinnacle pilots that want both groups stapled to the bottom

There are also a few mesaba pilots that want pinnacle stapled below them

there are also a few colgan pilots that want both groups stapled below them.

Then there is the overwelming majority of all 3 groups that just want the arbitrator to get off his behind and make the damn decision already so we can just all move on

 

[jynxyjericho]

I love how one of these threads comes up every once in a while for no reason what so ever. There are a few pinnacle pilots that want both groups stapled to the bottom

There are also a few mesaba pilots that want pinnacle stapled below them

there are also a few colgan pilots that want both groups stapled below them.

Then there is the overwelming majority of all 3 groups that just want the arbitrator to get off his behind and make the damn decision already so we can just all move on

Agreed

 

[Airscrew]

I heard the Pncl merger committee was dead set on a staple. Sounds like it's a larger minority in this boat than previously thought.

 

[higney85]

I heard the Pncl merger committee was dead set on a staple. Sounds like it's a larger minority in this boat than previously thought.

You may have "heard" but I "know" that was not/ is not the case.

 

[CptMurf]

Hey Higney,
Why the discrepancy in XJ/9L releasing statement saying they were trying to organize a negotiation meeting on the 18th, but 9E was unresponsive. Then 4 days later on the 22nd 9E releases a statement saying XJ/9L were unresponsive in 9E proposal to set a meeting. Something's amiss here and someone is not stating the truth to their pilot group.

 

[DoinTime]

Hey Higney,
Why the discrepancy in XJ/9L releasing statement saying they were trying to organize a negotiation meeting on the 18th, but 9E was unresponsive. Then 4 days later on the 22nd 9E releases a statement saying XJ/9L were unresponsive in 9E proposal to set a meeting. Something's amiss here and someone is not stating the truth to their pilot group.

Not sure what you are talking about with 9E releasing a statement on the 22nd. No such statement exists. I havent heard that 9L has said anything on the matter either. So far, it just looks like the XJ MEC is trying to stir the pot.

 

[bri5150]

Not sure what you are talking about with 9E releasing a statement on the 22nd. No such statement exists. I havent heard that 9L has said anything on the matter either. So far, it just looks like the XJ MEC is trying to stir the pot.

If by "stirring the pot" you mean "trying to get a deal done before one is forced upon us", then yes, they are probably "stirring the pot".

 

[CptMurf]

Not sure what you are talking about with 9E releasing a statement on the 22nd. No such statement exists. I havent heard that 9L has said anything on the matter either. So far, it just looks like the XJ MEC is trying to stir the pot.

It is just hearsay, but I was told by a 9E pilot that an email was sent out to 9E pilots on April 22nd stating that they had contacted the the arbitrator and expressed interest in negotiating during arbitration, but had not had any contact with the XJ/9L negotiators. Yet XJ/9L pilots were advised 4 days earlier on the 18th via email (I got it, so this is a fact), that they had tried to contact the 9E negotiators to set a meeting date/time, but that 9E was unresponsive to their requests.

So either the 9E pilot that I got this info from is wrong, or something is amiss in communications between the 3 groups. And if the latter is true, then 9E is standing by themselves in this process.

 

[DoinTime]

It is just hearsay, but I was told by a 9E pilot that an email was sent out to 9E pilots on April 22nd stating that they had contacted the the arbitrator and expressed interest in negotiating during arbitration, but had not had any contact with the XJ/9L negotiators.

That email doesn't exist.

Yet XJ/9L pilots were advised 4 days earlier on the 18th via email (I got it, so this is a fact), that they had tried to contact the 9E negotiators to set a meeting date/time, but that 9E was unresponsive to their requests.

How do you know what the 9L pilots got in their email box? Either way, considering that the above email doesn't exist, the point is moot and baseless.

So either the 9E pilot that I got this info from is wrong, or something is amiss in communications between the 3 groups. And if the latter is true, then 9E is standing by themselves in this process.

Your accusations are based on crew room BS and are unfounded. Why am I not surprised?

 

[higney85]

There are and were no talks. It's political posturing on XJ's part . 9L and 9E weren't aware of any talks according to my sources.

We all await the arbitrator, that is all.

 

[CptMurf]

Deleted.

Peace out till the 15th. It's not worth it.

 

[Raskal]

What's this? Unions sending out whiny/bitchy emails about the other union(s) during seniority arbitration? Impossible I say.

 

[SEVEN]

For All the Clueless 5 or 3 to 1ers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3Y2i-1mD0

 

[RJLoser]

Deleted.

Peace out till the 15th. It's not worth it.

Murph is right. It's a done deal.

 

[jynxyjericho]

In Bloch we trust.

 

[SEVEN]

The New May 15th SLI Anthem.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4

One Voice, One List.....we'll see in a few.

 

[RJLoser]

Geeesh Seven, let's have a glass half full outlook on this. This isnt exciting for anyone. Time to move on though.

 

[SEVEN]

Geeesh Seven, let's have a glass half full outlook on this. This isnt exciting for anyone. Time to move on though.

It's the fear of the unknown. The fate of ALL are in the hands of one man. Soon, 9E Peter will be silenced til age 65. P.P is only looking out for himself and not others. He is a selfish person and doesn't care about the good of all 3 pilot groups involved. Sadly, there are too many like him anticipating the demise of the XJ pilot group. What an exciting day that will be to see good triumph. However, there is still fear and anticipation that this could go the wrong way.
I, however am slightly optimistic that the right decision will be made.