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MCDU

MCDU

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Is it true that during training you have to pay for your own hotel? So, in essence you are paying part of the training costs that most airlines cover.To me it sounds like Delta makes you pay part of your training cost.

M
 
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MCDU said:
Is it true that during training you have to pay for your own hotel? So, in essence you are paying part of the training costs that most airlines cover.To me it sounds like Delta makes you pay part of your training cost.

M
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Well, our first year pay is $56/hr...that should help.
 
MCDU said:
Is it true that during training you have to pay for your own hotel? So, in essence you are paying part of the training costs that most airlines cover.To me it sounds like Delta makes you pay part of your training cost.

M
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Well if you got hired at USAIR you would make $1750 per month on the East side, $2730 on the West side, or $2870 on the 190 AND get a hotel for the 3-4 weeks of sim training.

At Delta you would make $3920 per month and have to pay $150-$200 for a crashpad for the month of sim training.

What would you rather do?? I'd take the extra $12K the first year over a cheap training hotel for a few weeks. I know it sucks to be where you are, but keep your head up....maybe some day USAIR will be as nice of a place to work as Delta is.
 
Why do you guys respond to an obvious troll?
 
MCDU said:
Is it true that during training you have to pay for your own hotel? So, in essence you are paying part of the training costs that most airlines cover.To me it sounds like Delta makes you pay part of your training cost.

M
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How's date of hire working out for you? Sucks you bunch of 5 year olds can't learn how to play in the same sandbox with your neighbors.
 
Beetle007 said:
I am confused. Does Delta not pay for hotel during new-hire training?
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They do provide a hotel for the first couple of weeks, then it is on your own.

Is that BS? Of course it is. Should a world-class company expect new hire trainees to foot the bill for their own lodging while in mandatory training? I think we all would state "no."

Nevertheless, that is how it is. It is actually better than in earlier years where you had to find a place to stay at your own expense from day one of new hire training. At least now you get a hotel for a couple of weeks, which not only saves you a little $$ but also gives you a little time to find a "less bad" crashpad than you might otherwise have.

Bottom line is that new hires unfortunately have to suck it up on the lodging front; after probation is over, hopefully they can suggest to DAL that "hey we can do better than THAT."

I wonder what the rules are for other carriers?
 
MILPILOT17 said:
New to me, but from the sound of it-------NO.
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They consider everyone Atl based until off to ioe at your base. It's worse they even withhold ga state income tax that you have to file with at the end of the year to get back no matter where you live during initial training.
 
Why would you wonder what other airlines do?
Most regionals pay for a hotel- my old check hauling outfit paid for a spot-
I'm sure there's a muddle mgr somewhere with a nice kitchen remodel after coming up with that.

DALPA has proven they will stretch the junior out as thin as possible if it puts a nickel in a senior guy's pocket

World class sellouts
 
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JohnQ said:
They do provide a hotel for the first couple of weeks, then it is on your own.

Is that BS? Of course it is. Should a world-class company expect new hire trainees to foot the bill for their own lodging while in mandatory training? I think we all would state "no."

Nevertheless, that is how it is. It is actually better than in earlier years where you had to find a place to stay at your own expense from day one of new hire training. At least now you get a hotel for a couple of weeks, which not only saves you a little $$ but also gives you a little time to find a "less bad" crashpad than you might otherwise have.

Bottom line is that new hires unfortunately have to suck it up on the lodging front; after probation is over, hopefully they can suggest to DAL that "hey we can do better than THAT."

I wonder what the rules are for other carriers?
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SWA pays for the hotel the entire training period; no Tx income taxes withheld, unless of course you are a Tx resident. If I remember correctly they also pay for a hotel on the front and back side of your IOE, but don't quote me on that one.
 
How much is that 737 type?
 
Yeah Wave,

What did your parents shell out for your type rating?? Just askin'
 
MILPILOT17 said:
SWA pays for the hotel the entire training period; no Tx income taxes withheld, unless of course you are a Tx resident. If I remember correctly they also pay for a hotel on the front and back side of your IOE, but don't quote me on that one.
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Of course since Texas does not have a state income tax...some one might frown on that. But back to the point...Delta expects a new hire to pay for their own hotel during sim? How does the anniversary pay raise thing work now, do you get your 2nd year raise on your anniversary date or do you have to add a few months from when all in your class has completed training and IOE during new hire training? How does that 401(k) matching work for the old NWA guys now?
 
Mike Oxlong said:
How does the anniversary pay raise thing work now, do you get your 2nd year raise on your anniversary date or do you have to add a few months from when all in your class has completed training and IOE during new hire training?
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You go to Year 2 pay 365 days after your DOH.
 
Mike Oxlong said:
Of course since Texas does not have a state income tax...some one might frown on that. But back to the point...Delta expects a new hire to pay for their own hotel during sim? How does the anniversary pay raise thing work now, do you get your 2nd year raise on your anniversary date or do you have to add a few months from when all in your class has completed training and IOE during new hire training? How does that 401(k) matching work for the old NWA guys now?
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Excellent point! Thanks for the correction.
 
It comes down to this. If you have to pay part of your training costs like housing while you are employed, it is pay for training.

M
 
It is sad how we have allowed our career to be eroded and disrespected here in the U.S. not even in third world countries and very small outfits worldwide companies would even dream of not providing you with accommodation and transportation during training, but the saddest of all is that some of you are even defending this practice as "business as usual" the industry has exploited 9/11 and the economic downturn so masterfully and for so many years that a new generation of pilots have grown into believing that this is the norm. By some of the responses justifying these practices here I have to say "bravo to management" you have over the years perfected the art of koolaid making
 

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